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Shop air compressor buying advice
« on: June 01, 2017, 07:37:48 PM »
Finally going to have a shop now I need a compressor to go in it. Looking for recommendations. It's main use will be an air gun for changing tires, and airing up tires. I do want to be able to run a DA sander without having to wait for it to recover. I have the option of buying the sellers compressor but I think he wants too much even for it being a snap-on. Some advice from the pros would be awesome.

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2017, 09:53:36 PM »
if youre sanding or spraying, you need a big ole tank. No way around it. I was looking for the same recently and decided to give up on it because I didn't want a huge tank taking up space. Bought a double tank compact compressor. It was a cheapo, Hitachi but, very happy with it. Does what it will be used for very well, framing, nailing, tires, blowing off the Harley....
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2017, 10:24:38 AM »
I have two Dewalt 4.5 gal portables, one I plumbed for my shop, the other is loose so I can drag it around where I need it.
Not meant for a "pro grade or business" but they have been great for daily home use of air tools.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-4-5-Gallon-Portable-200-PSI-Electric-Vertical-Air-Compressor/1036715
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2017, 12:25:05 PM »
true 5 horsepower  min 80gallon tank

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2017, 12:57:33 PM »
diaphragm compressor will put less oil in your lines, but they're LOUD.  I hate my air compressor it kicks on and all talking stops, you have to shout over it.



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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2017, 01:03:37 PM »
If you have the budget a rotary screw compressor would be the ticket
If not then like coach said, min 5hp and min 80 gallon tank, and bigger on both accounts if you have the $$$
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2017, 02:22:42 PM »
Agree 5hp 80 gal min. Don't get an oil less, very noisy as stated. Rotary screws are awesome but not cheap. I'm moving away from air for everything possible. Obviously some things you just can't avoid it but I try. 18v Milwaukee tools are amazing these days!

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2017, 05:40:49 PM »
Agree 5hp 80 gal min. Don't get an oil less, very noisy as stated. Rotary screws are awesome but not cheap. I'm moving away from air for everything possible. Obviously some things you just can't avoid it but I try. 18v Milwaukee tools are amazing these days!

If you are not running a business needing air, shop carefully. Screws are great but expensive to operate occasionally. 5hp with a 80 gal tank will do a lot, but don't cheap out.   :twocents:
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2017, 09:31:30 PM »
Not running a shop, but I guess you never know. I guess the budget is 2k...

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2017, 06:20:30 AM »
Quincy 80 gallon 2 stage

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2017, 06:41:32 AM »
da sanders run some air ........

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2017, 10:02:43 AM »
What's the difference between single stage and dual?

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2017, 10:33:44 AM »
If you have 220 in the shop, do what Coach said.  2 stage will give you much higher CFM.  It really helps when running sanders, chisels, guns, and any other high need devices.  You can get a pretty nice 2 stage, 5 HP, 80 gallon delivered to your door for ~ $1.5K.
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2017, 11:36:39 AM »
It does have 220, in multiple places  :IBCOOL:

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2017, 04:42:44 PM »
http://m.northerntool.com/products/shop~tools~product_200350476_200350476?hotline=false

This is the one I'm thinking of buying

Looks good. But what about delivery costs?
There is a new Tractor Supply in Longview. Take a look at this one, maybe shipping to their store would be cheaper.  :twocents:

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ingersoll-rand-2340n5-v-230v-1ph-two-stage-compressor-80-gal?cm_vc=IOPDP2#
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2017, 07:57:52 PM »
That would work well for you . Just make sure you don't buy a 3 phase machine you would need a phase converter.

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2017, 08:10:52 PM »
http://m.northerntool.com/products/shop~tools~product_200350476_200350476?hotline=false

This is the one I'm thinking of buying

Looks good. But what about delivery costs?
There is a new Tractor Supply in Longview. Take a look at this one, maybe shipping to their store would be cheaper.  :twocents:

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ingersoll-rand-2340n5-v-230v-1ph-two-stage-compressor-80-gal?cm_vc=IOPDP2#

That's a good price delivered to the store! The one I included the link to had free shipping.

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2017, 08:25:37 AM »
When I was looking I was thinking about buying a spray in bedliner system and doing side jobs. The one I found most appealing which had the cfm capacity was a smaller gasoline powered unit.
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM »
I put a Kaeser shop air system in our California facility.  Absolutely the best money I've ever spent on a shop replacement or improvement.  Zero water, zero fluctuation in pressure regardless of the number of users, and so quiet you don't even realize its running.  When you install one with a Smart Line TM tech system it doesn'tt require air storage tanks.   

We had 5 Kaeser compressors (total) in 4 of our production buildings.  Keep up with the routine maintenance and you'll have very few problems.   We used the smart pipe in one section, but used existing with tanks in others.

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2017, 10:37:57 AM »
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ingersoll-rand-75-hp-80-gallon-two-stage-air-compressor?cm_vc=-10005

This ones even better yet at the same price as the original I looked at

I would think this one would be great, 24cfm at 90 would be nice. We have a portable 2hp 30 gallon Ingersoll at work so far its been a great compressor and very quiet.

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2017, 11:03:52 AM »
For what your doing you can likely spend  $800 and get a decent  compressor. If you find that your using yours more than you thought you can always just add another tank. I have a second 80 gal tank from a 3 phase compressor I just parted out. I will be linking it in to the other tank here soon. Longer charge times but should be less lag when running air tools for extended periods.

I should also add that my neighbor keeps his portable air tanks hooked up so they are always charged and add another 15 gallons of capacity.

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2017, 11:21:55 AM »
We went with one fro Grizzly, I don't recommend it.  It's been OK but have had a few minor issues that are frustrating to deal with.

We built a small insulated room off the side of our shop to house it.  Louvers high and low for airflow, then plumbed into the shop.

MUCH quieter operation, only a slight hum when running.  We have offices in our shop so noise was a concern.  Worked so well I did the same at home.  Nothing worse than that thing firing up in the middle of a conversation.

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2017, 11:57:13 AM »
We went with one fro Grizzly, I don't recommend it.  It's been OK but have had a few minor issues that are frustrating to deal with.

We built a small insulated room off the side of our shop to house it.  Louvers high and low for airflow, then plumbed into the shop.

MUCH quieter operation, only a slight hum when running.  We have offices in our shop so noise was a concern.  Worked so well I did the same at home.  Nothing worse than that thing firing up in the middle of a conversation.

No problems with condensation and water in the lines coming from outside into the building?  We had to use a fairly large dryer on a similar setup.

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2017, 12:50:41 PM »
We went with one fro Grizzly, I don't recommend it.  It's been OK but have had a few minor issues that are frustrating to deal with.

We built a small insulated room off the side of our shop to house it.  Louvers high and low for airflow, then plumbed into the shop.

MUCH quieter operation, only a slight hum when running.  We have offices in our shop so noise was a concern.  Worked so well I did the same at home.  Nothing worse than that thing firing up in the middle of a conversation.

No problems with condensation and water in the lines coming from outside into the building?  We had to use a fairly large dryer on a similar setup.

No, but only because we have a dryer system as well. 

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2017, 03:13:17 PM »
2 stage will keep your pressure up. 
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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2017, 07:40:20 AM »
I pretty much had my mind made up on the IR one in my earlier reply. Now I see Home Depot has a Dewalt with similar specs for a hundred less plus has an additional year warranty on the compressor itself. Going through Home Depot I could maybe save more by getting their credit card. Anyone have input on one brand verses the other?

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Re: Shop air compressor buying advice
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2017, 02:23:29 PM »
I would wonder who makes the Dewalt. IR has been in the compressor business for years. For a big price difference and an "extended, probably limited" warranty, the costs have to be cut somewhere.  :twocents:
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