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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2017, 02:52:21 PM »
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I have no doubt that at some point, you will see a hunter in his elevated "cabin" stand, snoring on a comfy bed while his cell enabled cameras "alert" him to wake up, open the window and shoot at the deer that just triggered his cam outside his hunting palace blind.  Inside the palace blind will be a full kitchen, heater, TV, and a recliner, multiple screens streaming video from his cams just outside, and a full working bathroom. 

Now that's hunting!
I'd prefer a hot tub myself.
I have a very good friend in Wyoming who shot a couple of coyotes from his girlfriend's hot tub
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2017, 02:58:55 PM »
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I have no doubt that at some point, you will see a hunter in his elevated "cabin" stand, snoring on a comfy bed while his cell enabled cameras "alert" him to wake up, open the window and shoot at the deer that just triggered his cam outside his hunting palace blind.  Inside the palace blind will be a full kitchen, heater, TV, and a recliner, multiple screens streaming video from his cams just outside, and a full working bathroom. 

Now that's hunting!
I'd prefer a hot tub myself.
I have a very good friend in Wyoming who shot a couple of coyotes from his girlfriend's hot tub
I can't imagine it gets much better than that. :tup:
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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2017, 03:46:34 PM »
Is it normal and customary hunting practice to shoot a bull elk at 1,000yds.? If they want to address new technology where do they start. There's a whole bunch of "new technologies" in that can of worms.

Thank you....good points, both of your last posts.   :tup:
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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2017, 03:47:04 PM »
Just make them illegal once the season has started.  Patterns should already be figured out by then.
That's how Montana does it.  Not that I am for any more restrictions, just saying that is how Montana's law was written, come opening day of archery, no more cameras in the woods.

Rick, is this ANY camera, or just cell enabled ones?

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2017, 04:31:50 PM »
Here's the thing. Pretty soon there will be live streaming blue tooth enabled trail cams that guys can spread all over the woods and have full surveillance in real time while there "hunting" right on there smart phone. yes the game departments need to stay ahead or at least as close as possible to advancing technologies in regards to fair chase. If that means they outlaw trail cams or adopt Montanas law here in Idaho  than I'm all for it.

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2017, 04:32:44 PM »
Also If it happens I'll have some cameras to sell if anyone's interested

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2017, 04:33:04 PM »
I like Montana's rules on it myself,i pulled all my trail cams last year ,on or before Sept 1 .But not for fair chase but more for theft reasons since I hunt mostly public land.My family only harvested one buck that we had got on cams out of half a dozen we seen on cam before Sept 1,And I'm just fine with that . :twocents:

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2017, 04:42:44 PM »
Just make them illegal once the season has started.  Patterns should already be figured out by then.
That's how Montana does it.  Not that I am for any more restrictions, just saying that is how Montana's law was written, come opening day of archery, no more cameras in the woods.

Rick, is this ANY camera, or just cell enabled ones?

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2017, 05:16:02 PM »
Here's the thing. Pretty soon there will be live streaming blue tooth enabled trail cams that guys can spread all over the woods and have full surveillance in real time while there "hunting" right on there smart phone. yes the game departments need to stay ahead or at least as close as possible to advancing technologies in regards to fair chase. If that means they outlaw trail cams or adopt Montanas law here in Idaho  than I'm all for it.

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2017, 08:41:58 PM »
I use cams but very sparsely. I'm all for a more equal playing field that gets rid of them, especially if it's some of this high tech stuff. I would never push/lobby for a ban, but certainly wouldn't oppose one targeting the use of higher tech and/or baited.

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2017, 08:51:21 PM »
If it’s not here already, I suspect that high-resolution real-time satellite imagery will be available to consumers in the near future: a live version of Google Earth.

It's hard to imagine that there was a day when hunters could get game without Mt Palomar sized telescopic sights, without computerized ballistic calculators and weather instruments, without GPS, without laser rangefinders, and without $600 shirts.

Except for the fact that the seasons were much longer and much more liberal. Where you could essentially, "Just go hunting", like my grandad used to say.

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2017, 09:33:02 PM »
Just make them illegal once the season has started.  Patterns should already be figured out by then.
That's how Montana does it.  Not that I am for any more restrictions, just saying that is how Montana's law was written, come opening day of archery, no more cameras in the woods.

Rick, is this ANY camera, or just cell enabled ones?

Dave
No trail cams period once the hunting season starts in montana.
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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2017, 08:21:51 AM »
Sooo, have these cameras been an issue? Is this just another case of creating a solution to a non existent problem  :dunno:

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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2017, 08:25:58 AM »
Sooo, have these cameras been an issue? Is this just another case of creating a solution to a non existent problem  :dunno:

BINGO!

I think the only real issue is the way non-hunters might perceive the use of trail cameras and their usefulness and the advantage they may give hunters.

There's no doubt if it were put up to a vote of the people, surely Washington state voters would be in favor of banning trail cameras entirely.
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Re: Idaho F&G Proposal-Outlaw Trail Cameras
« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2017, 08:27:20 AM »
Sooo, have these cameras been an issue? Is this just another case of creating a solution to a non existent problem  :dunno:

BINGO!

your both missing the point. like I said, technology isn't going to move backwards here. much rather see game departments n front of issues than years behind trying to catch up wouldn't you? especially considering the area here (tech) is the fastest evolving thing in the history of man. I understand no one likes change and they like it even less when there inconvenienced but try some practical thinking here and remember were not talking about a game department like Washington, were talking Idaho's. you cant get much more pro hunting than our F&G. this isn't going to be motivated by spite like you guys may be used to, there going to legitimately try and maintain fair chase using practical game laws.

but I know you spent a bunch on your fancy cameras...

 


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