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Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?

No
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Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« on: June 19, 2017, 09:03:28 PM »
Appears to be lots of repeat quality tag recipients on here, and lots of guys with 20+ points reading their multiple Quality tag hunt threads.  With the odds of pulling some of the most desirable buck and bull tags in WA approaching that of some moose and goat tags (pure speculation) should it be made official as OIL?
« Last Edit: June 19, 2017, 09:09:16 PM by Skillet »
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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 09:07:41 PM »
I voted No

But....... could maybe get on board with once you draw a quality D/E permit, you would have to sit out for a specified # of years, say 5-10.
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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2017, 09:09:29 PM »
I don't think they should be once in a lifetime. Think of the 15 year old kid who draws a quality permit. He still has at least 60 to 70 years of hunting left. And at 15, he probably won't even appreciate a quality hunt as much as a person with a little more hunting experience. I wouldn't deny him the option of continuing to apply for the quality hunts. However, I do think a 3 to 5 year waiting period would be appropriate.

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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2017, 09:11:38 PM »
I voted No

But....... could maybe get on board with once you draw a quality D/E permit, you would have to sit out for a specified # of years, say 5-10.

It used to be that if you got drawn for a bull elk tag in say the Dayton unit you had to sit out the draw for 4 years. I believe that was back in 1995 or 1996 if I remember correctly.
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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2017, 09:15:12 PM »
We already have the preferrence point system designed to give applicants who haven't drawn an advantage and a disadvantage to those who have or have recently started applying. That's a handicap enough.

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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2017, 09:16:44 PM »
No!

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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2017, 09:18:54 PM »
Hell No!!!
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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2017, 09:41:09 PM »
I voted No

But....... could maybe get on board with once you draw a quality D/E permit, you would have to sit out for a specified # of years, say 5-10.

It used to be that if you got drawn for a bull elk tag in say the Dayton unit you had to sit out the draw for 4 years. I believe that was back in 1995 or 1996 if I remember correctly.

I drew the Little Naches early rifle bull elk permit in 1996 and I didn't have a waiting period before I could apply again. So are you saying it was for just the Blue Mountain permits, or what?

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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2017, 09:41:34 PM »
There's not a single buck or bull tag in WA worth that designation . Some states do have tags like this such as Henry mts Utah. There are LOTS of options in this state to increase draw odds and they have done absolutely nothing about it EVER! If it means less money they don't wanna hear it.

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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2017, 09:45:49 PM »
Just drew the Entiat at age 60.  Pretty sure its OIL !

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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2017, 09:47:29 PM »
Just drew the Entiat at age 60.  Pretty sure its OIL !
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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2017, 09:58:06 PM »
Maybe, but I would go even further, you can only put in for one draw tag a year.  One application and you pick the animal and category.

The system we have is pretty much illogical, you put in, collect points (and a perceived advantage), yet have worse and worse chances every year.  The only thing holding it together is that people collect points and either are not up on the math or haven't taken the time to look closely.

It's kind of like a reverse ponzi scheme where you have too many new people entering and not enough cashing out.

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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 10:07:42 PM »
Maybe, but I would go even further, you can only put in for one draw tag a year.  One application and you pick the animal and category.

The system we have is pretty much illogical, you put in, collect points (and a perceived advantage), yet have worse and worse chances every year.  The only thing holding it together is that people collect points and either are not up on the math or haven't taken the time to look closely.

It's kind of like a reverse ponzi scheme where you have too many new people entering and not enough cashing out.
Part of it goes back to when they split all the categories and gave out lots of free points.  Probably should've had everyone pick one of the new categories to put all the old points into or how to split them up within the new sub-categories.

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Re: Should Quality Buck & Bull tags go OIL?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2017, 10:10:33 PM »
screw it lets copy AK and everyone puts and and only random non residents get drawn to pay for the states budget crisis.

 


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