POLL: Members are complaining about the off-topics, how should it be changed?

[Machias]

The venom wasn't so strong then.  It seems huntwa is dominated by politics now.  All the people who click ignore you can consider votes to eliminate OT.  Right?  I wonder if Admins counted # of posts in OT over the last year how it compares to ALL other posts combined?  Is it about web traffic and advertising??  I have no idea but am interested how it compares?  It isn't going anywhere, we all know it has too much use to be removed.  Result will be more rules or sumthing and Huntwa will continue to be more than outdoor forum.  I'm fine with that but if the vision is HuntWa it seems most politics could be expressed in another place/way.  Its all good, I am too old fashioned.  It can be more than hunt/outdoor.  I would like to see some of the person attacks be stopped.  It is progressing to a childish level for some and victims of insults probably just log out.  Example, how many Natives are on site?  Very few and for good reason.  Yet we could learn from them to advantage other agendas or ideas or work together maybe??

They have, it comes in 4th, behind the Virtual Campfire, Deer and Elk hunting.

[JimmyHoffa]

Virtual Campfire is carried by Bigfoot.....maybe there should be a no holds barred version of Bigfoot that dwells in OT?

[runamuk]

Truthfully I don't care if its around or not.  I simply state it was a better place before OT and that this is a HUNTING forum not political facebook banter.  And yes it was better, members were much more respectful.  Bans were frequent, rules were followed mostly.  I can go on Wapititalk and its respectful.  Like it used to be on Huntwa.  Good job Rory.   Yes its a choice, ignore, log off etc blah blah.  I simply state its a hunt forum and was better before people had freedom to bash others so freely.  I don't care if it stays or goes, wont change my behaviors.

But why was it better before OT?  It wasn't because there was no politics being discussed because there was.  Like Bone said, before OT there was SYM.  Same thing but different name. 

I really think the difference is there are just more members now and more members mean more opinions and more chances for someone to get upset over something.      That would happen with or without OT.  The larger the forum gets the more conflict there is going to be.

I wonder what the main complaint is about OT?  Because if someone doesn't like it they can ignore the board.  If it is hurt feelings from OT bleeding over, I haven't witnessed it. 

 100% agree serious 2 thumbs up

I belong to OT and put it on ignore, for what it's worth I was once a mod of sum of course son was miles so there ya go, huntwa's sketchy past now seems idyllic and "back in the day"

 

[Special T]

We have all lived through the most prosperous time in the U.S.  and it breeds complacency. Isn't it possible that the lack of discourse  of how we are affected by government  has come to an end?  History is a valuable teacher. Anyone whom has read or seen the video series by HBO John Adams can attest to the fact that political discourse has made our country stronger. If you choose to hurry your head in the sand that is your right.  You will suffer it's consequences.
Here is discussion of why fission that you don't like is still important.

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[WapitiTalk1]

Duh. Who doesn't like fission. My favorite may be crick fission but I like river fission for trout also. Ahh, but top water fission for bass is a blast also .  Ice fission can be good also! 

[NOCK NOCK]

Off topics isn't the issue, it's individuals who are the issue.   The best forums out there are the ones who get nasty with the ban hammer.  It needs to happen here as well 

Although I did vote to remove it completely....... I 100% agree with this statement 

This is a hunting forum, not a political BS forum.

[bobcat]

This is a hunting forum, not a political BS forum.

It's both.

[Wenatcheejay]

Those who are opposed to Off Topics to the point of wanting it removed but, they do not have the self fortitude to opt out should be banned from Off Topics.

Problem Solved.

[bobcat]

Those who are opposed to Off Topics to the point of wanting it removed but, they do not have the self fortitude to opt out should be banned from Off Topics.

Problem Solved.

That's actually a pretty good idea, I think. It's similar to the number 3 option in the poll:

"Make off topics by request and approval only, you would have to request membership"

I voted for number 2, to make everyone opt in again, and I think somewhere I mentioned another idea- make everyone opt in monthly. Say on the 1st of every month everyone is automatically unsubscribed to the off topic board. Then everyone who chooses to be a part of has to go in and opt in again. Every month. If it was like that I don't see how anyone could legitimately complain. It's your choice if you're in there reading the political and other non-hunting related topics. If you don't like it, why'd you join, right?

[NOCK NOCK]

This is a hunting forum, not a political BS forum.

It's both.

Oh, I get that.
Do you suppose folks go to a political forum to talk hunting?         maybe they do.......I don't.

Point being should be obvious, after all this is "Hunting Washington Forum"....not "Hunting and Political Washington Forum"

Dale asked for input, I gave mine.  Have a nice night. 

[bobcat]

This is a hunting forum, not a political BS forum.

It's both.

Oh, I get that.
Do you suppose folks go to a political forum to talk hunting?         maybe they do.......I don't.

Point being should be obvious, after all this is "Hunting Washington Forum"....not "Hunting and Political Washington Forum"

Dale asked for input, I gave mine.  Have a nice night. 

I understand. I like the fact that it's both. I actually don't know of any political forums. Really, is there such a thing? If so, it wouldn't be my thing. But I sure do enjoy reading the political viewpoints of other hunters. 10 years ago I couldn't have cared less. Maybe even 5 years ago. I only recently became interested in politics, after seeing the downward spiral of our country, and hoping that things will improve for my kids. I like staying informed and I've learned a lot from some of the political junkies who post here on hunt-wa.

[Wenatcheejay]

Bobcat,
I agree with your points. What changed a few years ago on H-W is the need for some to control. The culture in this State has changed. I don't think it will ever be as it once was. (Not much is.)
I have done a few posts about how hunters "eat their own." We are worst to younger and beginner hunters. LE does it, Nurses do it. It is a very bad thing. Conservatives also crucify those on our side who make mistakes. Hunters have no mercy for that. If you don't like the recoil on OT it's OK. Heck, I went to a gun and hunting forum that didn't have a filter. That was an eye opener. Actually, it was refreshing. Topics are pretty calm here, even in OT.

It is totally understandable to come to H-W and want to focus on hunting. The great thing is YOU CAN! You can right now as things are.

[Alan K]

This is a hunting forum, not a political BS forum.

It's both.

Oh, I get that.
Do you suppose folks go to a political forum to talk hunting?         maybe they do.......I don't.

Point being should be obvious, after all this is "Hunting Washington Forum"....not "Hunting and Political Washington Forum"

Dale asked for input, I gave mine.  Have a nice night. 

I understand. I like the fact that it's both. I actually don't know of any political forums. Really, is there such a thing? If so, it wouldn't be my thing. But I sure do enjoy reading the political viewpoints of other hunters. 10 years ago I couldn't have cared less. Maybe even 5 years ago. I only recently became interested in politics, after seeing the downward spiral of our country, and hoping that things will improve for my kids. I like staying informed and I've learned a lot from some of the political junkies who post here on hunt-wa.

 

I probably read more of the political themed threads than hunting threads now. Partially because its the off season Im sure, but also because I too have never been so intersted in politics as I am today. People should just opt out if they dont like it.  If it bleeds over into other portions of the forum, take appropriate measures. 

I dont know that I've actually shared one of mine or my familys hunts on here in several years. With the amount of members on here, the hunting stories could outweigh OT topics 100 fold if everyone shared, but they don't... Thats a bigger problem if you ask me. 

[jackelope]

This is a hunting forum, not a political BS forum.

It's both.

Oh, I get that.
Do you suppose folks go to a political forum to talk hunting?         maybe they do.......I don't.

Point being should be obvious, after all this is "Hunting Washington Forum"....not "Hunting and Political Washington Forum"

Dale asked for input, I gave mine.  Have a nice night. 

I understand. I like the fact that it's both. I actually don't know of any political forums. Really, is there such a thing? If so, it wouldn't be my thing. But I sure do enjoy reading the political viewpoints of other hunters. 10 years ago I couldn't have cared less. Maybe even 5 years ago. I only recently became interested in politics, after seeing the downward spiral of our country, and hoping that things will improve for my kids. I like staying informed and I've learned a lot from some of the political junkies who post here on hunt-wa.

 

I probably read more of the political themed threads than hunting threads now. Partially because its the off season Im sure, but also because I too have never been so intersted in politics as I am today. People should just opt out if they dont like it.  If it bleeds over into other portions of the forum, take appropriate measures. 

I dont know that I've actually shared one of mine or my familys hunts on here in several years. With the amount of members on here, the hunting stories could outweigh OT topics 100 fold if everyone shared, but they don't... Thats a bigger problem if you ask me. 

I/a lot of us agree with that.
FEEL FREE TO SHARE!!

[NOCK NOCK]

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I understand. I like the fact that it's both. I actually don't know of any political forums. Really, is there such a thing? If so, it wouldn't be my thing. But I sure do enjoy reading the political viewpoints of other hunters. 10 years ago I couldn't have cared less. Maybe even 5 years ago. I only recently became interested in politics, after seeing the downward spiral of our country, and hoping that things will improve for my kids. I like staying informed and I've learned a lot from some of the political junkies who post here on hunt-wa.
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IMO, "the downward spiral of our country" is caused by politics.