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I herd that the Yakimas has 21 spike heads lined up along the road last year before modern season for all to see up by the reserve. Damn shame.
I herd that the Yakimas had 21 spike heads lined up along the road last year before modern season for all to see up by the reserve. Damn shame.
The problem is our all mighty WDFW...trying to manage the state for trophy hunts when they should be trying to just manage the herds.
found out at the gun club today that WDFW has changed the spike rule to two smooth spikes above the ear in the Colockum. No more 1x2's and so on. Is this true?? Sorry if it has already been posted.[/quote After what I heard in Ellensburg yesterday..I think they might throw that one out. Patheticly there were ony 4 of us that had any comment on this problem. 2 were so gloom and doom that the a commissioner asked if he would be open to closing the area for a year totally ,to which he said yes. They (2 speakers) were for the SP option which I do not want. I'd rather see it closed for a year which unfortunately wouldn't bring in the 3000 plus fees for applying for them even though I would put in for a ghost hunt "any bull" tag to increase the 14 points we already have. When we started putting in for this you had to give up the first weekend of general bull to even get the chance for it. What happend there? Not enough revenue. Let's see...what roads will they close (another option) so that the older and disabled hunters get squeezed into a smaller area. My biggest @#$%@&* is that the DNR has logged out all the cover in MANY areas up there that the problem we have WAS caused. Take out hundreds of acres of cover up there and what would be the imminent result. This has happened. How can they expect bull escapement when so much to escape to has been removed??? I also brought up the group size limit for SP's What would they be? hopefully bigger than the 12 limit they have for most others since many camps are much bigger than that number. HHow about poaching? Has anyone noticed how many more animals (elk and deer) you see on the Ellensburg sideas compared to the Wenatchee side? Last year we didn't see squat from the lower basin loop ( Schaller or Jumpoff) clear to the Jumpoff line shack. Now what does the north side of this area have more of than the south? Orchards and workers maybe? By they way...we have been hunting this area in one form or another for 44 years. Also our governess has proposed putting DFW enforcement under the State patrol control... the legislature is increasing license fees by at least 10%, and there are noises of DISSOLVING the game commission to be replaced by what kind of bureocratic mess??
Quote from: C-Money on March 01, 2009, 05:04:39 PMfound out at the gun club today that WDFW has changed the spike rule to two smooth spikes above the ear in the Colockum. No more 1x2's and so on. Is this true?? Sorry if it has already been posted.[/quote After what I heard in Ellensburg yesterday..I think they might throw that one out. Patheticly there were ony 4 of us that had any comment on this problem. 2 were so gloom and doom that the a commissioner asked if he would be open to closing the area for a year totally ,to which he said yes. They (2 speakers) were for the SP option which I do not want. I'd rather see it closed for a year which unfortunately wouldn't bring in the 3000 plus fees for applying for them even though I would put in for a ghost hunt "any bull" tag to increase the 14 points we already have. When we started putting in for this you had to give up the first weekend of general bull to even get the chance for it. What happend there? Not enough revenue. Let's see...what roads will they close (another option) so that the older and disabled hunters get squeezed into a smaller area. My biggest @#$%@&* is that the DNR has logged out all the cover in MANY areas up there that the problem we have WAS caused. Take out hundreds of acres of cover up there and what would be the imminent result. This has happened. How can they expect bull escapement when so much to escape to has been removed??? I also brought up the group size limit for SP's What would they be? hopefully bigger than the 12 limit they have for most others since many camps are much bigger than that number. HHow about poaching? Has anyone noticed how many more animals (elk and deer) you see on the Ellensburg sideas compared to the Wenatchee side? Last year we didn't see squat from the lower basin loop ( Schaller or Jumpoff) clear to the Jumpoff line shack. Now what does the north side of this area have more of than the south? Orchards and workers maybe? By they way...we have been hunting this area in one form or another for 44 years. Also our governess has proposed putting DFW enforcement under the State patrol control... the legislature is increasing license fees by at least 10%, and there are noises of DISSOLVING the game commission to be replaced by what kind of bureocratic mess?? The "Doom and Gloom" guy you describe is ColockumElk... I was right next to him in the front row... Did you hear ANY of the stats??? There was only 127 or something bulls reported in '07 vs 340 something in '05 I believe... tell me why we SHOULDN'T close the colockum for all hunting or go to a permit only... I say close it off for a year or two, then make it a permit only hunt with 100 rifle branch tags, 200 archery bull tags, and 75 muzz tags... throw in some cow tags and I think you'd be doing well. With 300 bulls being born every year in just a couple years of closure there's going to be a lot more branched bulls running around... you figure 65% success for rifle, 25% for archery, and 35% for muzzloader and you have less than 150 bulls being taken per year with an added 150+ bulls per year from calving (300- ~150)... (btw the success ratios I just pulled out of my ass, but I'm sure they'd be close...)Michael
