Ghost camp

[Fl0und3rz]

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,157983.msg2096951.html#msg2096951

[Bob33]

If this really offends you, take a knee. That will bring people together.

[Oh Mah]

lol 

[jagermiester]

Now Lets be honest fellas. There is a huge difference between going over the weekend before camping and scouting and then going home for the week to come back the next weekend to hunt for an extended period of time.
And
Putting up a derelict tent that you don't intend to use then stringing up a bunch of potential litter, (when the rain and wind kick up) then putting up a sign, basically saying its reserved.
I wouldn't touch it I wouldn't tattle on them but I would tell them that I think that it is wrong, because where does it stop? Two weeks before and no parking signs.
Three weeks before and chains across spur roads.
Someone in the group needs to go over early or you need to set up your camp, use it, leave and come back to your camp. Don't pound a bunch of steaks in the ground and tape it off then go home. Almost as bad as posting land that is not private.

[Fl0und3rz]

Now Lets be honest fellas.

First rodeo?

[Ridgeratt]

I set my camp up the end of September and will be there until the end of late buck.   

[boneaddict]

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5291562.pdf


I googled the rules.   I don’t see anything about ghost camp...just the 14 day rule, not the 24 hour rule.

[Bob33]

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5291562.pdf


I googled the rules.   I don’t see anything about ghost camp...just the 14 day rule, not the 24 hour rule.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5270138.pdf
•Leaving camping equipment unattended for more than 24 hours without permission. 261.16 (i).
•Failing to have at least one person occupy a camping area during the first night after camping equipment has been set up. 261.16 (h).

However, these rules apply to "Developed Campgrounds" only.

[Woodchuck]

I put in for and get approved for an "extended stay permit" in NF every year and camp stays up for the entire time. The District Ranger has never told me about a "24hr" rule and there is nothing on the permit he sends back to me about a "24hr" rule. If you think there is an issue, report it if you must, but taking action on your own because of what you think you know may very well put you on the wrong side of the law. 

[boneaddict]

I’m guessing that’s one of the big confusions.   Mine was for dispersed camping (not in a campground).  I’m honestly looking and I can’t find anything.    Also interesting was the camping near water is written as a suggestion, not a rule or regulation.   I found it interesting because I have camped near water in a developed spot in a campground. 

[jagermiester]

Is this one of those ghost camps?

Prime spot, taped off, $10 tent flapping in the breeze.  How long can you reserve public land in this manner?

So......

Question to everyone who is defending setting up early. Look at the first picture. Would you do it like this?

[skeeter 20i]

Now Lets be honest fellas.

First rodeo?

Spit my coffee on that one.  Thanks. 

[Gobble Doc]

I set my camp up the end of September and will be there until the end of late buck.   

You must have a nice camp. Probably hot and cold running water.

[DRobnsn]

Now Lets be honest fellas.

First rodeo?

Spit my coffee on that one.  Thanks. 

  Same here.

[Seahawk12]

This debate happens each year.
The rules are there, but some people just believe that the rules don't apply to them or that rules are for suckers.
The "first come first serve" does not apply to ghost camps.
It is first come, and following the rules, first serve.
Breaking rules in your own self interest isn't clever. It's self-centered.
Lashing out at those who call it what it is just highlights the fact that you know you're breaking the rules and have no justification.
I guess things like this will always be around when you live in a "me-first" world.