No antlerless for Colockum Archers next year?

[hughjorgan]

It only compounds the problem for the lazy that don’t want to get out and walk. Besides hunting the back country or wilderness it is hard to get a mile from any road. Wdfw should be working proactively with the USFS and close more roads for escapement in the colockum and other units from Ellensburg to Yakima.

Nice statement. 
  What about an elderly hunter?  or  Disabled hunter?   Are they lazy too? 

Think before you post

There are already designated areas for handicap hunters. I don't know about the colockum but where I hunt there are two areas for them and guess where all the elk like to hang out?

Think before I post? Shall I use some cute emoticons to emphasize what I am going to say now like you did? Nah, I don't need to. The way you come across in what you posted, makes me think you don't think elderly hunters are capable of hunting any other way than from a vehicle, same goes for disabled folks. These folks are still very capable individuals and can still use the same areas whether there is a road to drive on or not. They may not be able to go as far as they once did but they still have access to the area. I see no reason why we can't close down a lot of spur roads that go to no where to provide better escapement and hunting for future generations. Another thing roads seem to do is make it real easy for natives to run up in the colockum and other areas and shoot big Bulls. One individual comes to mind when you think of the colockum doesn't it? ...whitefoot

The way I come across?  I am not the one calling people names, I am not the one who is assuming what you think I meant(reality is that many folks are not able to walk far from a road) do they deserve less opportunity than the young and able bodied?
I am not the one "throwing spears" at the natives.

Enlighten us on how "they still have access to the areas" when roads are closed.

PS,  ::


 

Well I am not going to hi jack this thread just because you don’t agree with my opinion to argue my point. It isn’t going to hurt anyone to close some roads for the betterment of the herds. There is thousands of miles of forest road out there to drive so enjoy it. 

[stickslinger]

It is real simple, just because a road is closed or gated does not mean the  disabled hunters can't get in, they just have to call the game department and tell them where they want to hunt and they will give them the key or combo to the gate which actually would give the disabled hunters a better chance at seeing animals.  Talked to a disabled hunters this year that was real frustrated, someone glued the lock closed and once the gammie opened it up he said there was a Hunter set up every hundred yards on the road. Now I'm not saying that closing a lot of roads up there will fix everything but in my opinion it is a good start.

[hughjorgan]

Proposals are out, no antlerless hunting for the colockum or Yakima archery seasons!

[bobcat]

Teanaway (335) will still have an antlerless archery season. I think that's the only one.

[Rainier10]

Here is a link to the comment page but if you click on the numbers on the right it takes you to the rules for that section.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/index.php

[hughjorgan]

Just looked at special permits, 100 cow permits are proposed for the colockum, nothing for Yakima.

[Rainier10]

Here is a link to another thread that talks about all the proposals. 

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,223652.msg2974636/topicseen.html#new

Let's try to keep this one just on the colockum cow topic.

[Rainier10]

So let me see if I got this straight.  They eliminated OTC cow hunting in the colockum.  Ok

They gave out 100 cow permits for early season archery.  Ok

They doubled the muzzy cow permits. Really?

And they increased modern firearm cow permits by 2 1/2 times.   

[hughjorgan]

I would bet there isn't going to be many archery guys hunting the early hunts with spike only seasons. Over crowding the late seasons is what this will do.

[Rainier10]

I just don't get it.  If it was population/herd health thing I would get it but you are just moving dead cows from one user group to another.

[hughjorgan]

Just politics, and archery is the big loser. Going to buy myself a modern tag this year...

[MADMAX]

 

Finally in an area we liked with plenty of cows for archery and uh uh
No more
Screwed up state BS
It wasn’t so long ago they were sqwacking about too many elk in the herd
Jeez

[Pinetar]

It had more to do with the department thinks that the archery hunters were pushing all the elk down low onto private land and causing too much damage early in the season. They feel that if they take away the cow tags for archery their won't be as many archers and the elk will stay up high and not disperse to private lands early in the season.

[Rainier10]

It had more to do with the department thinks that the archery hunters were pushing all the elk down low onto private land and causing too much damage early in the season. They feel that if they take away the cow tags for archery their won't be as many archers and the elk will stay up high and not disperse to private lands early in the season.

Where did you hear that?  It makes sense.  I think I will go to the commission meeting and see if I can get an explanation.  I assumed when it was rumored that it was changing that it was because they had achieved their population goal.  The increase in cow permits throws that out the window.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

So let me see if I got this straight.  They eliminated OTC cow hunting in the colockum.  Ok

They gave out 100 cow permits for early season archery.  Ok

They doubled the muzzy cow permits. Really?

And they increased modern firearm cow permits by 2 1/2 times.   

The archery guys normally don't harvest enough animals to keep heard numbers where the bios want them.  The other two used groups do a better job of harvesting.  So I'm told?