Multiple wolf packs in the Methow Valley?

[cbond3318]

It’s almost funny - but actually very sad.
The pro-wolf crowd on this forum follows Wolfbait around like a pack of wolves trying to discredit him at every turn. The true hunters and conservatives see what is happening and there are many on this forum that will not stand up in his defense but they agree with him. They just don’t want to get ridiculed and I really can’t blame them.
Our government has been attacking hunters (conservatives by nature - similar to the military) in many ways. The corrupt, unlawful wolf introduction of non-native wolves was a jewel in their crown of corruption!
The goal of the liberal agenda is to destroy the conservative movement at every angle.
Most hunters are either blind to this or they simply don’t want to hear it or don’t want to take action.
They may sadly wake up one day to find there is no hunting available and conservatives (most hunters) will be blamed for ‘killing off’ the ungulates they desire to hunt - but were denied the management tools to sustain huntable numbers of ungulates. That’s the back door plan of those who support these non-native wolves. I hope you aren’t surprised by this.
Part of the plan is to discredit those who are sending out the warning messages.
That’s the job of the liberal media. Some are on this forum. I wish they weren’t but they are and they are very loud.
Regardless of the number of cats, wolves, coyotes, or bears – we have far too many predators in this state and this state’s wildlife department is part of the corruption and they are not managing for hunters. They are managing for predators. I have been saying this for 30 years or more.
I’ve been ridiculed too but I know where it comes from.

  Why fight over the small point of who brought the wolves in? In the meantime the anti hunting liberals are winning as Washington becomes a predator pit and hunters fight over I need proof wdfw introduced wolves! Who cares wolfbait has posted more solid information than anyone on wolves that I have read and some stuff that is definitely easy to question-but his overall messages is correct. On wolves and cougars and every other predator Washington refuses to manage and the end result is less hunting opportunity and more important less wildlife. Even if somehow hunting Washington could prove or disprove the covert  introduction it wont change the important things at all and that is total mismanagement of wildlife by favoring an abundance of predators. When all the deer in the methow are gone the wolves wont deciline they will simply move and kill all the game in another area. Eventually they will get to Idaho and we will take care of them. Even with trapping and hunting they seem almost impossible to control with their reproductive rates.       

  boom

[bigmacc]

It’s almost funny - but actually very sad.
The pro-wolf crowd on this forum follows Wolfbait around like a pack of wolves trying to discredit him at every turn. The true hunters and conservatives see what is happening and there are many on this forum that will not stand up in his defense but they agree with him. They just don’t want to get ridiculed and I really can’t blame them.
Our government has been attacking hunters (conservatives by nature - similar to the military) in many ways. The corrupt, unlawful wolf introduction of non-native wolves was a jewel in their crown of corruption!
The goal of the liberal agenda is to destroy the conservative movement at every angle.
Most hunters are either blind to this or they simply don’t want to hear it or don’t want to take action.
They may sadly wake up one day to find there is no hunting available and conservatives (most hunters) will be blamed for ‘killing off’ the ungulates they desire to hunt - but were denied the management tools to sustain huntable numbers of ungulates. That’s the back door plan of those who support these non-native wolves. I hope you aren’t surprised by this.
Part of the plan is to discredit those who are sending out the warning messages.
That’s the job of the liberal media. Some are on this forum. I wish they weren’t but they are and they are very loud.
Regardless of the number of cats, wolves, coyotes, or bears – we have far too many predators in this state and this state’s wildlife department is part of the corruption and they are not managing for hunters. They are managing for predators. I have been saying this for 30 years or more.
I’ve been ridiculed too but I know where it comes from.

  Why fight over the small point of who brought the wolves in? In the meantime the anti hunting liberals are winning as Washington becomes a predator pit and hunters fight over I need proof wdfw introduced wolves! Who cares wolfbait has posted more solid information than anyone on wolves that I have read and some stuff that is definitely easy to question-but his overall messages is correct. On wolves and cougars and every other predator Washington refuses to manage and the end result is less hunting opportunity and more important less wildlife. Even if somehow hunting Washington could prove or disprove the covert  introduction it wont change the important things at all and that is total mismanagement of wildlife by favoring an abundance of predators. When all the deer in the methow are gone the wolves wont deciline they will simply move and kill all the game in another area. Eventually they will get to Idaho and we will take care of them. Even with trapping and hunting they seem almost impossible to control with their reproductive rates.       

Its kind of what I was saying a couple pages ago, the deer in the Methow will eventually be depleted to the point that the predators will move on to "greener pastures" and yes, we as hunters will probably have to find other areas(or states)to put our time into. As I,ve said numerous times, at this point in time the Methow herd is getting smacked hard and has been for awhile , the decline of the Methow herd is a multi headed snake, mis-maneggment of the herd, mis-management of predators, lack of trust in F and W, deception and some left hooks thrown by Mother Nature in the last 10 years. You are right Idaho guy, Washington and especially the Methow has turned into a "predator pit" and is getting worse.

[bigmacc]

We may have to return to the days of "bounty's" on these predators(I know it won't happen, not in this state), sure would work though, wheres Quigley!!

[idaho guy]

We may have to return to the days of "bounty's" on these predators(I know it won't happen, not in this state), sure would work though, wheres Quigley!!

 

[bigmacc]

Well speak of the devil!! Just talked to a friend who seen 3 wolves up towards Ramsey

[fishngamereaper]

We may have to return to the days of "bounty's" on these predators(I know it won't happen, not in this state), sure would work though, wheres Quigley!!
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Oh those where the days...I remember shooting coyotes in eburg in the mid 90s while going to college. Make enough for beer money. We used to get $10 a dog.

[Skyvalhunter]

just 3 wheres the other 22 wolves?

[jackelope]

just 3 wheres the other 22 wolves?

They're spread out across the entire remainder of the NCWA.

[Alchase]

Well speak of the devil!! Just talked to a friend who seen 3 wolves up towards Ramsey

I know that is only about 10 miles (as a bird fly's or a wolf runs) from the Lightning creek area where they have been for years, it just seems like the end is near, hearing they are on Ramsey and Pearrygen and Blue Buck peaks.
Also means they are in the Winter feed meadow above Pearrygen Lake.
 

[bigmacc]

Well speak of the devil!! Just talked to a friend who seen 3 wolves up towards Ramsey

I know that is only about 10 miles (as a bird fly's or a wolf runs) from the Lightning creek area where they have been for years, it just seems like the end is near, hearing they are on Ramsey and Pearrygen and Blue Buck peaks.
Also means they are in the Winter feed meadow above Pearrygen Lake.
 

Your right Alchase, I know there have been sightings up Boulder creek the last couple years, If you have a good arm you could throw a rock into Boulder from where he seen these, probably the same bunch, who the h@@@ really knows

[boneaddict]

They ve been wintering above Lundgrens


Funny the biologist doesn’t know that....but then again, just lookout wolves right

( especially considering their HQ is about 2 miles away)

[Special T]

They ve been wintering above Lundgrens


Funny the biologist doesn’t know that....but then again, just lookout wolves right

( especially considering their HQ is about 2 miles away)

Willfully ignorant?

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[bigmacc]

They ve been wintering above Lundgrens


Funny the biologist doesn’t know that....but then again, just lookout wolves right

( especially considering their HQ is about 2 miles away)

  go figure .....Poor Don, he had a couple cougars up in there a year or two ago, he even found one hiding by one of his hay rolls out in the field if I remember right.......the valley turning into a "predator pit" isn't to far off bone

[Alchase]

They ve been wintering above Lundgrens


Funny the biologist doesn’t know that....but then again, just lookout wolves right

( especially considering their HQ is about 2 miles away)

Wow, just wow 

[WAcoyotehunter]

What could be done in the methow to improve habitat conditions and grow more deer?  Winter range damage, weed infestations, poaching.... What else needs addressed?

Predators are an easy scapegoat, but generally it's a host of issues that combine to cause serious population declines