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Offline Oh Mah

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2018, 02:09:23 PM »
If baiting bring deer to a vector that can potentially spread diseases lol then all forms of aggriculture where deer feed in groups,or bedding areas where groups of deer bed etc would need to be taken out as well to stop the spread of disease.Also the multi million dollar over pass  that is being built will also be a vector causing diseases to spread.    :bash: We don't even need to mention water holes potential for the spread of disease,Give me a break.My trail cams pick up about 2800 pics,With about 400 pics of deer elk bear and other little fury creatures.out of all the deer and elk there are about 10 in total different deer and elk in that spot
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2018, 08:01:47 PM »
I started baiting last year seriously seeing what it was really about and if it made a difference and let me say it's real hard work,  it's not cheap but my kids love making the stuff we use seeing the thousands of pics and even with all the nice action I got I still hunt hard at many other places I kept it as back up and for the elderly guys we hunt with . I think if someone puts in work towards the hunting style they wanna do none of us should put one another down or make it seem wrong .

Also I can really say i have learned more about patterns  of all sorts of animals deer and predators alike

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2018, 12:49:05 PM »
I'll stand by this:
"Americans are systematically advocating, legislating, and voting away each others rights. Support all user groups & quit losing opportunity!"

To expand on that:
Every time a hunter advocates for taking something away from another group of hunters your turn to lose some of your hunting methods is just a little closer to being the next to be banned.

Sadly, there are people who want to ban everything we do in the outdoors and they are winning by taking away one little thing at a time, we must support each other or we will continue to lose!

Well said...  Remember, using duck decoys is a form of "baiting"  Using antlers to rattle up that buck in the rut or using estrus is a form of "baiting"  Electronic calls for coyotes is a form of "baiting"  We all utilize some sort of technique or method which increases our odds of harvesting animals.  If it is legal and is allowed for all, it is solely up to you to make a determination if that method fits within your own personal fair chase.  We should never turn on each other and should fully support the legal choices of other's techniques to hunt.
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2018, 02:54:49 PM »
Whatever makes u happy and fills the freezer.  I do t see anything wrong with baiting. 

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2018, 03:01:39 PM »
Anyone on here fish but never use a worm in their life?  :rolleyes:
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2018, 03:49:20 PM »
WDFW plants tons of grain every year to feed the ducks on the public land they manage.  They also have permanent blinds set up right next to those fields.

It's legal, go for it if you want to or don't if you don't like it.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2018, 08:39:26 PM »
Anyone on here fish but never use a worm in their life?  :rolleyes:
Amen! Most simple way I've heard it explained!


I'm all for baiting,  I feed 200+ deer a year and help them all get through winter! And I am only allowed to harvest 1. If I'm lucky. Makes total sence to me! Baiting only helps our Animals, it doesn't hurt them at all!
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2018, 08:13:33 PM »
I'll stand by this:
"Americans are systematically advocating, legislating, and voting away each others rights. Support all user groups & quit losing opportunity!"

To expand on that:
Every time a hunter advocates for taking something away from another group of hunters your turn to lose some of your hunting methods is just a little closer to being the next to be banned.

Sadly, there are people who want to ban everything we do in the outdoors and they are winning by taking away one little thing at a time, we must support each other or we will continue to lose!

Well said...  Remember, using duck decoys is a form of "baiting"  Using antlers to rattle up that buck in the rut or using estrus is a form of "baiting"  Electronic calls for coyotes is a form of "baiting"  We all utilize some sort of technique or method which increases our odds of harvesting animals.  If it is legal and is allowed for all, it is solely up to you to make a determination if that method fits within your own personal fair chase.  We should never turn on each other and should fully support the legal choices of other's techniques to hunt.
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2018, 08:16:46 PM »
Expected to see the annual b!tch fest about baiting.

Glad to see I was wrong. :tup:
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2018, 07:42:49 AM »
Expected to see the annual b!tch fest about baiting.

Glad to see I was wrong. :tup:

Well, now that you brought it back up, you're giving everyone a second chance  :chuckle:
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2018, 08:08:17 AM »
I don't see how baiting affects an ethical hunter's Fair Chase intentions in any way.

It may not be for you, but it may be the only  way some people get to put venison in the freezer.

For many of us, this is our food and we expect to put a minimum of one animal year into the freezer.  There is a massive economic and health gain by eating this food, rather than buying a lower quality meat at the grocery store.  If that is the motive, and a person is legally killing their one animal in a quick manner, I don't see why hunters would waste their breath arguing about it.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2018, 08:47:49 AM »
    As a guy who has been hunting over bait for a few years now I know that it is not a guarantee that you will even see anything over your bait, I have a buddy who sat in a tree stand for 11 days and never saw anything a couple years ago.
    Also the elk, especially, get really good at only coming in at night. We get thousands of pictures every year of elk that only eat alfalfa in the dark.
    Also it seems like the bulls quit hitting the salt as soon as the antlers harden up and that the cows seem to use it less after the calves get a little bigger, like once they wean the calves they stop hitting the salt for the most part.
    And as someone stated it is not all that easy and it isn't very cheap to do either.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2018, 07:01:46 PM »
I wish they would bring back bear baiting. Could see the bears for a little bit before you pull the trigger and not shoot momma with a little one...could be selective about it.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #58 on: September 16, 2018, 10:15:58 PM »
I know one ongoing critique/concern with "concentrated" baiting is that in CWD states it brings lots of animals close together and could be a source of disease transmission.

If that were to be true and proven, than I support getting rid of a transmission vector like that, immediately in states with CWD and as soon as a CWD case is identified in a state. I think baiting in general isn't a black and white issue and shouldn't be treated as one. I wonder what all the possible answers were on that survey? I would tihnk most hunters in this state would probably pick "option C: its complicated" than just choosing between "oppose" and "support" if it was offered

Many(most?) states with CWD have banned baiting altogether.  WI has it banned in counties adjacent to, and in, ones where CWD has been detected but not in the other counties. 

Personally, I think that WA's baiting rules are fine the way they are, especially since I only throw a few apples out at a time anyways (although right now with apple juicing going on I am putting out a bucket of pomace every couple of days). I use bait mostly to see what is coming by and when since I only have two trail cameras. I also like that it can give me, or the kids that I have come to the island to hunt, a chance to take time to make a good shot instead of just hurriedly at a deer passing quickly by.

 


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