School me on ARs

[Biggerhammer]

The stock in front of the action looks very short and I want the key hole things

I also prefer Key-Mod with the Noveske Low profile Key-Mod panels or a carbon fiber free float.


.264 LBC (Key-Mod) I just mount a short Key-Mod rail section up front for a bipod. Quickly removable.



 6.5x6.8 SPC top, 6.8 SPC bottom (Key-Mod).





.243 LBC (Carbon fiber)

[cem3434]

The stock in front of the action looks very short and I want the key hole things

The link I provided above is the cheapest MLOK (key lock) 16" kit I have seen lately. It is a complete kit  less the lower receiver for $260. I don't think you will find anything cheaper with a MLOK rail. Btw, I have bought several of these kits myself from Ceratac and have no complaints.

[b23]

Biggerhammer, didn't you do a 22 Nosler AR not to long ago, how is that working out for you?  I'm kind of kicking around the idea of a 22 Nosler but still on the fence about it.

[Fl0und3rz]

The stock in front of the action looks very short and I want the key hole things

I also prefer Key-Mod with the Noveske Low profile Key-Mod panels or a carbon fiber free float.


.264 LBC (Key-Mod) I just mount a short Key-Mod rail section up front for a bipod. Quickly removable.



 6.5x6.8 SPC top, 6.8 SPC bottom (Key-Mod).





.243 LBC (Carbon fiber)

You always have the nice looking + hardware.

[hunter399]

First thing is do you want a range gun,or all out hunting caliber , or both,do you reload, lots of wildcat calibers coming out every year.Then do you wanna build yourself or buy out write ,building yourself is always cheaper,Don't be fooled by needing all these special tools,theres a lot of tricks  to get by without every tool on first build.Caliber being most important on cost factor.

[Biggerhammer]

Biggerhammer, didn't you do a 22 Nosler AR not to long ago, how is that working out for you?  I'm kind of kicking around the idea of a 22 Nosler but still on the fence about it.

Yep... It's alright but I prefer a chambering I can hunt big game with. Hands down the .243 LBC is the chambering for that. The Grendel/.264 LBC is great but I can launch a 95gr Berger Hunting VLD from a 22" .243 LBC at 3000 fps and do it with a solid 1/2-3/4 MOA. Wicked chambering at distance! The 6mmx6.8 SPC is a close second due to the length of the 6.8 SPC case, the shorter Grendel case/.243 LBC case is better suited for the longer high BC bullets. On the other hand a 6mm-6.8 SPC is very impressive on deer with the 90gr Accubond and the 95gr SST. Taken Mule deer with both combo's both BANG/FLOPS out to 287 yards both bullets exited the animal, complete pass through with serious trauma.



200 yards

[Alchase]

JDB, first determine what you want to use the rifle for.
A home defense, hunting, paper punching (extreme accuracy), I prefer to set mine up  by function.
Then caliber if other than .223/556.

I would love to build a lightweight 6.5, just because Inlike the 6.5, LOL

[SGTDuffman]

Figure out what you wanna do with it and it’ll help us point you in the right direction. As far as Keymod rails are concerned, I would avoid them. MLOK is a more robust non railed system, and was selected by the military over Keymod for that reason. There isn’t a whole lot of aluminum holding your accessories on w Keymod.

[hunter399]

Could help you look for cheap buys and sales,but without knowing what caliber is in interested can't help too much.

M-lok is also what's on my ar , you will find more compatible stuff with m-lok.

[Biggerhammer]

Seeing that most aren't jumping out of fixed wing aircraft in third world crap holes with their AR's. Key-Mod and M-Lok are both great and function just as well as each other in our world. It's  a persenal preferance. I like the wide verity of after market support for the Key-Mod system as compared to the proprietary system of MagPul/ M-Lok.

[hunter399]

Seeing that most aren't jumping out of fixed wing aircraft in third world crap holes with their AR's. Key-Mod and M-Lok are both great and function just as well as each other in our world. It's  a persenal preferance. I like the wide verity of after market support for the Key-Mod system as compared to the proprietary system of MagPul/ M-Lok.

I do agree Apple's and oranges both work very well.

[Biggerhammer]

There's still some smoking deals going for guys that want to assemble a AR. This is a link to a e-mail I got today.

Anderson makes quality stuff for the price. I would call it the top shelf of Mil-Spec standard stuff. A one stop shop place for the basic components. There's a world of after market stuff to frost the basics with.

http://www.primaryarms.com/anderson-manufacturing-ar-15-stripped-lower-receiver-ar-15-a3?trk_msg=RHKGO8VJRGOKN9UCGGUAC9A0DG&trk_contact=RV7R0CP26HC6DMVAL9940H4DOG&trk_sid=U6FD9SFED1A5PD1FN8EO4SG45C&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=BANNER_1&utm_campaign=17_12_Ad_02_24_HR_Sale

[SGTDuffman]

Seeing that most aren't jumping out of fixed wing aircraft in third world crap holes with their AR's. Key-Mod and M-Lok are both great and function just as well as each other in our world. It's  a persenal preferance. I like the wide verity of after market support for the Key-Mod system as compared to the proprietary system of MagPul/ M-Lok.

Both are open source designs. MLok outsells Keymod by about 3:1. It’s also about 3-4x more repeatable if accessories are removed.

[Biggerhammer]

Seeing that most aren't jumping out of fixed wing aircraft in third world crap holes with their AR's. Key-Mod and M-Lok are both great and function just as well as each other in our world. It's  a persenal preferance. I like the wide verity of after market support for the Key-Mod system as compared to the proprietary system of MagPul/ M-Lok.

Both are open source designs. MLok outsells Keymod by about 3:1. It’s also about 3-4x more repeatable if accessories are removed.

I guess I know a little about AR's,  never had a issue with "Repeatable" on a handguard? Not much into marketing, more into functional. I don't need to read about stuff, I purchase it, use the hell out of it and make my decision from real world trigger time. To each their own.

[SGTDuffman]

Seeing that most aren't jumping out of fixed wing aircraft in third world crap holes with their AR's. Key-Mod and M-Lok are both great and function just as well as each other in our world. It's  a persenal preferance. I like the wide verity of after market support for the Key-Mod system as compared to the proprietary system of MagPul/ M-Lok.

Both are open source designs. MLok outsells Keymod by about 3:1. It’s also about 3-4x more repeatable if accessories are removed.

I guess I know a little about AR's,  never had a issue with "Repeatable" on a handguard? Not much into marketing, more into functional. I don't need to read about stuff, I purchase it, use the hell out of it and make my decision from real world trigger time. To each their own.

Guess you never used a PEQ-2. Or any other laser on a hand guard. At least not anywhere but on the top. And I rather enjoyed jumping out of planes, easiest $150/mo I ever made. The point is, knowing what the planned use is can help us help. If it’s gonna live its life punching paper or popping coyotes, that’s completely different than self defense, in every aspect. If I was betting my life on it, I could count the brands I’d recommend on 1 hand.