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Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« on: December 06, 2017, 05:46:52 AM »
http://www.khq.com/story/37000379/helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington

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Helicopters to be used to capture deer in Eastern Washington
Posted: Dec 05, 2017 1:52 PM PST
Updated: Dec 05, 2017 1:52 PM PST

RICHLAND, Wash. (AP) - State biologists will survey mule deer populations and use nets fired from a helicopter to capture some of them starting this weekend in Eastern Washington.
Some 50 does will be captured and fitted with GPS/satellite collars to allow biologists to monitor migration patterns and doe survival.
The Tri-City Herald reports the work will happen in Walla Walla, Columbia and Garfield counties for up to several weeks.
Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife biologists will gather data to learn more about mule deer populations, including the percentages of bucks, does and fawns.
Officials say the information could be used to inform future management of the deer population and hunting seasons.


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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 05:57:18 AM »
They shouldn't have to track the wolves then as they will be following these collared deer
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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 06:11:15 AM »
If I remember they did this a few years ago with the Wilson creek to Fish trap Muledeer Migration. Guess they didn't learn anything from that.   :sry:

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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 06:42:45 AM »
What is the big deal?  Using helicopters to capture wildlife is done all the time on just about every continent. 

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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 07:00:48 AM »

The big deal is cost and effectiveness.  Could the same be done studying road kill and flying drones for 10 cents on the dollar?  Is the data used efficiently?

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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 07:44:18 AM »
Or maybe they could save a pile of money and just ask a hunter! Lol yup muledeer are struggling i can tell you that without a hellicopter!

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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 07:51:44 AM »

The big deal is cost and effectiveness.  Could the same be done studying road kill and flying drones for 10 cents on the dollar?  Is the data used efficiently?


In this case no.  Read the article.  Road kill will tell you nothing.  Drones have uses.  In this case again no.  Helicopter are proven to be more cost effective for many studies.  In this case using a helicopter would save big time over other methods.  To use other methods would cost much more in staff time and I am willing to bet they would not get a statistical significant sample size.

Understanding migration patterns is a big deal in all states with migratory deer.  It not a case of look at it once and walk away.  It is continually looked at over time and as new technology and research methods are developed it is looked at again. 

I think another way to look at is to consider a contractor who has a project.  What is the tool he will use, buy, or lease to do the job?  Maybe he needs to dig a big ditch.  He could use manpower, small piece of equipment or a large piece of equipment.  He may own a small backhoe and could get the job done with it.  Or he could lease a larger backhoe and get the job done faster lowering cost.

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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 07:52:10 AM »

The big deal is cost and effectiveness.  Could the same be done studying road kill and flying drones for 10 cents on the dollar?  Is the data used efficiently?

How would studying road kill help to ID migration patterns?
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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 08:09:16 AM »

The big deal is cost and effectiveness.  Could the same be done studying road kill and flying drones for 10 cents on the dollar?  Is the data used efficiently?

How would studying road kill help to ID migration patterns?

Reverse engineering.
You'd know where the migration ended
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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 08:11:51 AM »

The big deal is cost and effectiveness.  Could the same be done studying road kill and flying drones for 10 cents on the dollar?  Is the data used efficiently?

How would studying road kill help to ID migration patterns?

Reverse engineering.
You'd know where the migration ended

What about in areas where roads are not a factor?

Helicopters and net guns are a thing that happens all the time all over the west. Blacktails on the OP, mountain goats, etc.

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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 08:16:24 AM »
Just a little sarcasm for the morning.
I know nothing of the project or what any answers are.
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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2017, 08:23:57 AM »
I hope these helicopters don't add to the chemtrails.

Ok, enough nonsense.  I hope they can get some valuable information.  We all bitch that they aren't trying to figure the issues out.  This is a good step, in my feeble mind. :tup:
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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2017, 08:30:08 AM »
I hope these helicopters don't add to the chemtrails.

Ok, enough nonsense.  I hope they can get some valuable information.  We all bitch that they aren't trying to figure the issues out.  This is a good step, in my feeble mind. :tup:

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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 08:30:36 AM »
It seems like the right time of the year to do it and with the concern on here regarding the health of mule deer populations in the state, I'd think most people would support the study. They'll certainly also be testing for CWD and possibly other diseases, as well. It looks like a good thing to me.
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Re: Helicopters-to-be-used-to-capture-deer-in-eastern-washington
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2017, 08:34:55 AM »
Anyone remember they did this a few years back with the muckelshoots in the joe watt area?  So how and what did they learn? Are deer numbers suck..

 


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