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Everything is wonderful!!
« on: December 08, 2017, 10:51:23 AM »
I guess this means permit levels and season should stay the same next year? :dunno:

http://katu.com/news/local/wolves-do-not-appear-to-hurt-deer-elk-other-ungulates

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2017, 11:07:49 AM »
What a load of horse poo  >:(

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2017, 11:15:31 AM »
That's hilarious  :chuckle:. Why did they choose year 15-17, because it's already such low numbers across the board? They should reveal the dwindling numbers from year 2000-2017.
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2017, 11:15:55 AM »
What a load of horse poo  >:(

You can say that again.  :bash:
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2017, 11:19:54 AM »
I just sent the clown that wrote this an e-mail telling him to quit putting out false information.

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2017, 11:23:38 AM »
Fake news!!!
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2017, 11:36:34 AM »

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2017, 11:53:58 AM »
So all of the guys who didn't see anywhere near the numbers of elk and deer up there this year must've been lying because the WDFW wouldn't lie about wolves, surely.
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2017, 12:09:53 PM »
I wonder what they eat?
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2017, 12:40:07 PM »
I heard rhey eat gravel thats why there is so many potholes on gravel roads

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2017, 12:54:47 PM »
I heard rhey eat gravel thats why there is so many potholes on gravel roads

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2017, 01:30:53 PM »
Must be they are turning vegetarian and got a taste of grass and other plant life.

Just like the story they only seek out the old, sick & injured.

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2017, 01:33:28 PM »
Anyone notice there's no source?
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2017, 01:48:31 PM »
No source and no press release from WDFW...

Some serious investigative journalism
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2017, 01:58:17 PM »
Spokane tag, that is just embarrassing

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2017, 02:11:33 PM »
SPOKANE, Wash. The growing population of wolves in eastern Washington state does not appear to be hurting the populations of deer, elk and other ungulates.

A report issued this week by the state Department of Fish and Wildlife looked at ungulate populations between fiscal 2015 and 2017.

The report concluded that none of the ungulate populations in the assessment appeared to show clear signs of being limited by predation from wolves.

Ungulates include elk, moose, deer and bighorn sheep.

Gray wolves were hunted to extinction in Washington early in the past century. But the animals started migrating into the state in the early 2000s from Idaho and Canada. The first wolf pack was documented by DFW in 2008.
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2017, 02:16:59 PM »
Wonder if this is the assessment?

http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01948/
Published 2016  :chuckle:
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2017, 02:21:56 PM »
Wolves Don't Appear to Cause Global Warming

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2017, 02:23:27 PM »
SPOKANE, Wash. The growing population of wolves in eastern Washington state does not appear to be hurting the populations of deer, elk and other ungulates.

A report issued this week by the state Department of Fish and Wildlife looked at ungulate populations between fiscal 2015 and 2017.

The report concluded that none of the ungulate populations in the assessment appeared to show clear signs of being limited by predation from wolves.

Ungulates include elk, moose, deer and bighorn sheep.

Gray wolves were hunted to extinction in Washington early in the past century. But the animals started migrating into the state in the early 2000s from Idaho and Canada. The first wolf pack was documented by DFW in 2008.
I thought they didn't do assessment of elk in the northeast? Moose seem to be infected with wolf worms.  Deer are probably just assessed by harvest stats.

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2017, 02:44:58 PM »
This guy is a joke. Pretty obvious how he is misleading the public with that crap. Theres a reason he doesn't add the link per the source because most that don't have a clue will take his article at face value!  :bash:

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2017, 02:45:33 PM »
Arnt caribou ungulates? How they doing?

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2017, 03:19:38 PM »
Arnt caribou ungulates? How they doing?

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They don't count because they are high fence now.  :chuckle:
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2017, 03:48:56 PM »
I wonder what they eat?
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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2017, 04:54:39 PM »
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2017, 05:04:52 PM »
We need a Trump fake news emoji, complete and utter BS.

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2017, 05:14:40 PM »
http://www.capitalpress.com/Washington/20171208/wdfw-no-sign-wolves-diminishing-deer-elk

Way more info from capital press than the AP.

"It doesnt surprise me because of what I see on the ground, said Tim Coleman, executive director of the Kettle Range Conservation Group.

Coleman, also a member of WDFWs wolf advisory group, lives in northeast Washington and said he spent a lot of time camping in the region this summer.

Im not seeing much of a change in the ungulate population, Coleman said. The two (wolves and ungulates) have lived together for millennium.


Yeah real big surprise there. A wolf lover saying he spends alot of time in the woods and doesn't see a problem. Of course he doesn't.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2017, 05:29:14 PM »
http://www.capitalpress.com/Washington/20171208/wdfw-no-sign-wolves-diminishing-deer-elk

Way more info from capital press than the AP.

"It doesnt surprise me because of what I see on the ground, said Tim Coleman, executive director of the Kettle Range Conservation Group.

Coleman, also a member of WDFWs wolf advisory group, lives in northeast Washington and said he spent a lot of time camping in the region this summer.

Im not seeing much of a change in the ungulate population, Coleman said. The two (wolves and ungulates) have lived together for millennium.


Yeah real big surprise there. A wolf lover saying he spends alot of time in the woods and doesn't see a problem. Of course he doesn't.  :rolleyes:

He made this assessment from "BOTH" deer he witnessed. 

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2017, 06:08:26 PM »
Fake news should be punishable by severe ass whooping
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2017, 07:00:20 PM »
 :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

I got this response from KXLY:

The information comes directly from the WA Dept of Fish and wildlife. More information here http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/
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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2017, 07:04:21 PM »
  Ive been seeing a lot of comments on here about how wolves are having an effect on the moose, deer, and elk populations! Well you are so wrong! And heres the proof!  :o

http://www.capitalpress.com/Washington/20171208/wdfw-no-sign-wolves-diminishing-deer-elk

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Re: E. Wa. Wolves and ungulates!
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2017, 07:15:25 PM »
Quote
WDFW Game Division Manager Anis Aoude said that the study was an internal report and not publishing it earlier was an oversight.

 Does anyone actually believe this bull sh!t?

 Political move putting this out on a Friday as well, it's not by accident.
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Re: E. Wa. Wolves and ungulates!
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I think they are drinking too much of their own Kool aid! :bash:

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2017, 07:53:42 PM »
merged
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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2017, 08:00:21 PM »
Their data is collected from hunting reports but hunters are targeting legal bucks, not fawns or smaller dows which are more likely to be eaten by wolves.

Am I wrong?   :dunno:

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Re: Everything is wonderful!!
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2017, 10:36:14 PM »
I guess this means permit levels and season should stay the same next year? :dunno:

http://katu.com/news/local/wolves-do-not-appear-to-hurt-deer-elk-other-ungulates

must have in collaboration with conservation northwest

they put out a lot of fake news

 

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