Tubbs final finish

[Coasthunterjay]

Anyone use this in there guns......

I was even considering using there preloaded ammo on an old gun that has proven to get worse groups as the years go.

What do you think of the reloads and the loaded final finish bullets? Anyone here use the tubbs system?

[Gutpile]

Something about those things scare me. I just couldn't do it. Even if a professional competitive shooter told me to.

Have you ever used copper remover on the bore of your old rifle? I did my old 06 and it did make quite a difference.

[Coasthunterjay]

Yah i hadnt ever used the copper solution untill this year....i scrubbed the bore with a bristle brush and then soaked it over night and then swabbed...did that continually for about 3 days....it was bad but after three days it finally came out clean....no blue....but my gun really doesnt shoot as good as i think it could....

Its just an old winchester that needs some attention...a bedded stock would really help. floating the barrel would probably help also, but i think the barrel could use some more help.

Thats why i was thinking of using final finish. I mean I have only heard of good results. I think it is very inexpensive and could be a good idea....? Who knows. If i do it ill post my results.

But for now ide like to know someone else who has done this first.

[Gutpile]

I think I saw a thread about this over at predator masters. I've heard good thinks to but like I said, it just scares me. 

[JoshT]

Its just an old winchester that needs some attention...a bedded stock would really help. floating the barrel would probably help also, but i think the barrel could use some more help.

Thats why i was thinking of using final finish. I mean I have only heard of good results. I think it is very inexpensive and could be a good idea....? Who knows. If i do it ill post my results.

Seems to me you should work on the other stuff first. Bedding is very simple (and reversable) and when done properly I've never personally seen an instance when it did not improve groups. Floating the barrel is another easy and reversable fix... and, if it dosn't work... you can always experiment with pressure points in the barrel channel. The last thing I'd do is run abrasive bullets through the bore... that ain't reversable. Bed it, float it, shoot it... if that don't fix it... I don't think sandpaper bullets are your answer.

[deaddog]

Im not sure about that product, I do use and recommend trying J.B.s bore paste, its a non-embedding oil based, patch appiled polisher that has worked good for me on all guns I have used it on. A good friend of my shoot,s benchrest and uses it all the time in his high $ guns with no problems.It will remove fouling, rust, copper and lead. Good stuff! IMO

[JoshT]

I agree... JB is the goods. Especially when a barrel really needs to get *censored*d out... I only use it if I'm switching from standard bullets to the Barnes, or visa-versa.

I think factory barrels can really benefit from a good semi-lapping before you shoot them, or even every couple hundred rounds. 1000 passes with Bore Paste on a tight patch is much better for "breaking in" a barrel, than the shoot & clean method that is so popular.

[highclimber]

I have had good luck with sweets. Use a bore guide wet a patch let sit a minute. Run another wet patch through. Let sit a minute. Run two or three dry patches. Should get a lot of blue on patch. Than run a two wet patches let sit a minute. Run a nylon brush do not use a brass brush. Run one more wet patch then run dry patches until you don't see any blue. If you still have blue. Run some more wet patches than dry until comes out clean. Be carefull not to get sweets on anthing but inside your barrel. Make sure to rise barrel really good. Read direction's. After that I will run two different jb bore paste through my gun. Then rise and lite oil. That should Help. If its a really old gun that has not been keep clean. It may never get really tight groups. But this is a good first step. Their are lots of other things you can do but if just a hunting rifle. It should be fine.