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WDFW needs your help
« on: December 28, 2017, 07:04:37 PM »
WDFW Police need help solving a wildlife wastage case. On December 26,  Officers discovered three white garbage bags containing 28 ducks shot and dumped whole at the Devonshire road turnout, on SR 12 (roughly nine miles east of Aberdeen ). Of the 28 ducks, 8 were hen Mallards, 18 Drake Mallards and were two smaller birds.  Time of death appears to have occurred over the holiday weekend.

We ask that you call the WDFW Police Dispatch at 360-902-2936, or case officer Becker at 360-742-8516 to report any information that may help. Those who provide information will be kept in confidence and may be eligible for a cash reward.

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 07:31:06 PM »
I wonder if the bags came out of the back of a truck? If you were just going to shoot them why bag them up?

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2017, 07:35:15 PM »
I wonder if the bags came out of the back of a truck? If you were just going to shoot them why bag them up?
Yeah, if they planned on wasting them why wouldn't they just leave them where they shot them.

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2017, 08:13:06 PM »
I wonder if the bags came out of the back of a truck? If you were just going to shoot them why bag them up?
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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2017, 08:15:54 PM »
Yeah, 4 hunters, followed bag limits.... Doesnt sound like an intentional act.  :dunno:

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2017, 08:20:27 PM »
By the same token, it would be hard to lose 28 ducks.
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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2017, 08:37:25 PM »
I've never put my birds plastic garbage bags... And even if I did losing all three bags out the back of a truck would be damn near impossible.
Sounds to me like somebody got too drunk/lazy to deal with 28 birds the next day.
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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2017, 08:43:37 PM »
Is the Audubon society going to offer a 10K award :chuckle:
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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2017, 09:00:32 PM »
I wonder if the bags came out of the back of a truck? If you were just going to shoot them why bag them up?
Yeah, if they planned on wasting them why wouldn't they just leave them where they shot them.
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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2017, 09:06:58 PM »
Yeah, you guys are probably right.  The WDFW should just assume someone lost them out of the back of their truck and drop the whole thing, like they did when I lost an elk out of the back of my pickup.  Same thing, elk, ducks, whatever...they can't do anything right anyhow.

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2017, 09:12:18 PM »
Yeah, you guys are probably right.  The WDFW should just assume someone lost them out of the back of their truck and drop the whole thing, like they did when I lost an elk out of the back of my pickup.  Same thing, elk, ducks, whatever...they can't do anything right anyhow.
I guess I don't like that it's just assumed some wrong was done. Maybe i should start thinking the worst about people like everyone else.

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2017, 09:52:54 PM »
Yeah, you guys are probably right.  The WDFW should just assume someone lost them out of the back of their truck and drop the whole thing, like they did when I lost an elk out of the back of my pickup.  Same thing, elk, ducks, whatever...they can't do anything right anyhow.
I guess I don't like that it's just assumed some wrong was done. Maybe i should start thinking the worst about people like everyone else.

 :yeah: Is it innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent? I guess I forget sometimes and the government said something is wrong, so they must be right. Keep drinking WDFW's koolaid boys and we won't be hunting or fishing before you know it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2017, 10:11:47 PM »
Yeah, you guys are probably right.  The WDFW should just assume someone lost them out of the back of their truck and drop the whole thing, like they did when I lost an elk out of the back of my pickup.  Same thing, elk, ducks, whatever...they can't do anything right anyhow.
I guess I don't like that it's just assumed some wrong was done. Maybe i should start thinking the worst about people like everyone else.

 :yeah: Is it innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent? I guess I forget sometimes and the government said something is wrong, so they must be right. Keep drinking WDFW's koolaid boys and we won't be hunting or fishing before you know it.

It is wastage.  That doesn't mean a law was broken.  They are investigating it, which is their job.  If they find that the game was "recklessly" wasted, they can charge the offending party.  They are doing their job. 

Now, if they just dropped it, I am sure there would be plenty of outcry that they aren't doing their job and investigating this clear wastage case. 

I don't see the notice saying "There is a criminal out there, and we need your help to get him".  They are trying to solve a wastage case.  It is game wastage.   It may not be in violation, but it is game wastage.  If you can't help them, just forget about it instead of speculating that Big Brother is out to get you. 

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2017, 10:17:02 PM »
maybe it was 'nutrient enhancement'?  Making up for the missing fish?

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2017, 10:20:44 PM »
Well said Dave.  WDFW Enforcement gets hammered on the daily on this board for not doing enough to curb poaching.  Investigating this apparent wastage is well within their scope of ops and legit.  There could be a good reason for it and it's their job to find out.
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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2017, 10:47:56 PM »
Yeah, you guys are probably right.  The WDFW should just assume someone lost them out of the back of their truck and drop the whole thing, like they did when I lost an elk out of the back of my pickup.  Same thing, elk, ducks, whatever...they can't do anything right anyhow.
I guess I don't like that it's just assumed some wrong was done. Maybe i should start thinking the worst about people like everyone else.

 :yeah: Is it innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent? I guess I forget sometimes and the government said something is wrong, so they must be right. Keep drinking WDFW's koolaid boys and we won't be hunting or fishing before you know it.

It is wastage.  That doesn't mean a law was broken.  They are investigating it, which is their job.  If they find that the game was "recklessly" wasted, they can charge the offending party.  They are doing their job. 

Now, if they just dropped it, I am sure there would be plenty of outcry that they aren't doing their job and investigating this clear wastage case. 

I don't see the notice saying "There is a criminal out there, and we need your help to get him".  They are trying to solve a wastage case.  It is game wastage.   It may not be in violation, but it is game wastage.  If you can't help them, just forget about it instead of speculating that Big Brother is out to get you.
It just sounded strange to me that someone would take a couple dozen ducks and drop them off in a bag by the side of the road. Others have speculated that someone probably got drunk and didn't want to deal with them. I speculated that someone might have lost them accidentally. I'm not saying they should say anything one way or another. That many ducks sounds like more than one guy hunting.if my opinions bothered anyone it wasn't my intent.

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2017, 11:16:59 PM »
I know if I accidentally lost them I would be back looking for them. To say oh they must have just fell off the tailgate seems pretty thin to me.
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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2017, 12:58:36 PM »
Yeah, you guys are probably right.  The WDFW should just assume someone lost them out of the back of their truck and drop the whole thing, like they did when I lost an elk out of the back of my pickup.  Same thing, elk, ducks, whatever...they can't do anything right anyhow.

Maybe they should hire a "multidisciplinary action team," including local shamans,  environmental "experts," and psychic profilers at  $425000 a head to diligently work though the thousands of "variables" and  decipher the inner spiritual meaning of this heinous crime!  :tup:

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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2017, 01:34:07 PM »
Of the 2 smaller birds, one is definitely a drake green wing real. The other looks like a hen Pintail but could be a hen teal.

Anyway, whoever it was had a lot of shooting. I wish I could get that much shooting.  I hope they get to the bottom of it.
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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2017, 01:41:04 PM »
One odd thing about where the bags of ducks were found.............isn't that right next to the WDFW office?  :dunno: 
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Re: WDFW needs your help
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2017, 02:11:52 PM »
Boy, some of you guys really go after one another at the drop of a hat. No wonder we can't get anything done to combat the antis.  All they have to do is just sit back and watch us tear each other apart.
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2017, 06:52:52 PM »
Boy, some of you guys really go after one another at the drop of a hat. No wonder we can't get anything done to combat the antis.  All they have to do is just sit back and watch us tear each other apart.

Lots of things “we” can’t get done together. I will say this. The anti’s come together a hell of a lot better than “we” do.
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2017, 07:03:32 PM »
You both have a good point. I'll admit my comment about the perp probably being lazy/a drunkard was pure speculation.  I don't know what happened - but I am still glad it's being looked into.  Hopefully some light is shed on this wastage.
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2017, 08:31:05 PM »
Damn shame no matter how it happened.
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2017, 08:52:46 PM »


Lots of things “we” can’t get done together. I will say this. The anti’s come together a hell of a lot better than “we” do.
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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2017, 10:03:31 AM »
Lots of things “we” can’t get done together. I will say this. The anti’s come together a hell of a lot better than “we” do.

How many hunters are capable enough to at least attempt to be retrospective and try to understand why that is?

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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2017, 10:17:01 AM »
When they refer to the "Turnout" and being dumped I have to wonder if they are talking about the WDFW building that is right there..

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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2017, 10:28:51 AM »
When they refer to the "Turnout" and being dumped I have to wonder if they are talking about the WDFW building that is right there..
A couple of years ago I found a spot in the woods with a deer capped and dumped and a bunch of ducks dumped.  I called WDFW and reported.  They took down the information and seemed interested.  Forward a few years and I found out that it was a common spot for a WDFW LEO to go dump seized animals and roadkill.

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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2018, 07:46:31 PM »
A few years back I was driving home from work go over a bridge that is located on a local creek. I saw approximately 10 dead ducks and geese laying in the creek, it was a mixture of Canada geese, mallards and likely widgeon. They were not breasted or gutted out. I reported it to wdfw and met an officer and showed her pictures of where the birds were. She could have cared less in my opinion because the birds remained in the creek for at least 2 more weeks likely critters fed on them. I know it’s hard to prove but wdfw should removed them. This is interesting article  because it’s been on local news channel like wdfw really cares now

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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2018, 07:15:58 AM »
My guess is shot and dumped. Years ago, on another forum, an avid waterfowl hunter reported finding a large box of unprocessed ducks dumped in the marsh near Potholes. Over my waterfowl hunting time in WA, I've run into a significant number of duck hunters who love to hunt ducks, but not eat them. Those that don't pop up with the "gave them to my hunting partner" excuse; became evasive about what happened to their harvest.

Sadly, all those ducks in the story are good eating ducks. Unfortunately, many over cook their ducks and turn them into "stinky liver" and thus, they are turned off to eating them. Also, sadly since moving to E.WA, I've encountered numerous hunters who never eat anything from deer to ducks to quail to pheasants that they shoot. "I ate so much of that growing up...that I can't stand it..."  My 80 some year old neighbor feels the (social?) need to harvest a buck nearly every year, but never eats it. In his case, he does give the deer to a friend to eat.
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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2018, 11:58:02 AM »
My guess is shot and dumped. Years ago, on another forum, an avid waterfowl hunter reported finding a large box of unprocessed ducks dumped in the marsh near Potholes. Over my waterfowl hunting time in WA, I've run into a significant number of duck hunters who love to hunt ducks, but not eat them. Those that don't pop up with the "gave them to my hunting partner" excuse; became evasive about what happened to their harvest.

Sadly, all those ducks in the story are good eating ducks. Unfortunately, many over cook their ducks and turn them into "stinky liver" and thus, they are turned off to eating them. Also, sadly since moving to E.WA, I've encountered numerous hunters who never eat anything from deer to ducks to quail to pheasants that they shoot. "I ate so much of that growing up...that I can't stand it..."  My 80 some year old neighbor feels the (social?) need to harvest a buck nearly every year, but never eats it. In his case, he does give the deer to a friend to eat.

 Finally a voice of reason. I to know there are lots of people out there who enjoy the hunt and the killing when it comes to waterfowl and don't eat what they harvest. let them sit in there garage for a few days and then end up tossing them in the trash because they didn't get them cleaned in time. pisses me off to know end. Those birds were bagged and dumped, they didn't fall off a tailgate or blow out.

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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2018, 12:00:01 PM »
I also believe they were dumped and didn't simply fall off of a truck.  But what I find strange is where they dumped them.  Why dump them right by the WDFW office?  :dunno:
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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2018, 12:02:33 PM »
Perhaps they figured it was the safest place because no one shows up to work there anyway.  :dunno:

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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2018, 12:03:11 PM »
just saw this post in the Nisqually pigs thread. Pretty much sums it up.


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