Permits quotas rocking

[bigdub257]

That's not going to happen, the areas I know where the tribes hunt the USFS gives them a key and its closed to motorized vehicles except USFS and the tribes.
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Wow.....wasn't aware of that.

[Green broke]

The FB posts titled Jerky Season and dead bulls in trucks is glaring.

Tbar, do you think it’s ok if one member alone kills 25-30 bulls in one year, some years more, to satisfy the guys jerky business?  And that’s just one member that abuses the treaty. We all realize it’s not only the tribes, but it’s certainly part of the problem. Does your tribe, the nooksacks, abuse the treaties or do they self regulate?

You know how many bulls one member killed? Or wait, you read it on the internet so it must be right?

Blah blah blah, same crap....different diaper from a tribal member trying to justify the over harvest by some other tribal members. We ALL have bad apples and most of us are more than happy to see when poachers are prosecuted, but it seems tribal members always run and hide behind a treaty when it's one of their own. The good news is the wolves are taking over along with the other overpopulated predators, so there wont be anything left for anyone to hunt in 20 years.

I'm glad to see that the tribes don't care about the health of the herds and conservation is word that you say, but don't practice. 

You are truly clueless! Either that or just need to make excuses for your inability.

[Green broke]

Not sure that this is a rifle tag problem and I don't think most are complaining that the tags have been cut rather that many tribal members seemingly don't care about the health of the herds. I have only put in for muzzy the last 5 years or so and I was archery for several years before that. The real issue is the number of hunters and lack of tags regardless of the tag designation. As others have said when tribal members are a small percentage of the overall hunting  population, but probably account for half of the overall harvest of mature bulls on the eastside then we have a problem. The non native tags have been cut severely, but the tribal hunters remain unregulated.  I honestly don't have a problem with subsistence hunting, but targeting only mature bulls and killing dozens of elk for a jerky business is ridiculous. If tribal members don't agree with that assessment then they are part of the problem.

Like I said before most of us can't afford to hunt out of state every year or don't have the vacation to do so. Telling people that is the solution and basically give up on your home state is not realistic for the majority of hunters. Its sounds like you're in a position to do so, which probably puts you in a very small percentage that can do so.

In your back yard the tribes have been the solution, so much so that the season is improving to promote harvest. But keep you accusations, lies and excuses going they love it here on hatewa.

[Colville]

Simple question.  Is there a 1 elk limit in the tribes? And if so how can one find those punished for taking more, and the punishment? If not one elk, whats the limit  and why?

[bobcat]

Yakama tribe has no limit on deer or elk. Bucks and bulls open year around, does and cows they only get 4 months.

Quinault tribe I looked up at one time but don't remember for sure. But I believe their limit was four deer and four elk per year. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know about any of the others. But I'm pretty sure the the Yakama tribe is the only one to have absolutely no limit.

[Green broke]

Simple question.  Is there a 1 elk limit in the tribes? And if so how can one find those punished for taking more, and the punishment? If not one elk, whats the limit  and why?

Fair question, every tribe has their own regulations. Things have drastically in the recent past and the tribes are at the forefront of management. They may also be many species only hope to perpetuate and others to be managed responsibly.
As for punishment this is another area where there have been sweeping changes recently ( the last decade+).  Many if not most tribal laws and punishment exceed the states and the prosecution rate is heavily weighted on the tribal side. State prosecutors just do not put a lot of importance on natural resources crimes.

[Green broke]

Yakama tribe has no limit on deer or elk. Bucks and bulls open year around, does and cows they only get 4 months.

Quinault tribe I looked up at one time but don't remember for sure. But I believe their limit was four deer and four elk per year. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know about any of the others. But I'm pretty sure the the Yakama tribe is the only one to have absolutely no limit.

Call them out individually if you disagree.

[JimmyHoffa]

Simple question.  Is there a 1 elk limit in the tribes? And if so how can one find those punished for taking more, and the punishment? If not one elk, whats the limit  and why?

Depends on the tribe.  Some are one bull, some are one elk.  Some allow multiple.  Know of one where there are designated hunters for the old people.  The two guys get the tags for thirty or so elders that can't hunt and fill the tags for them.

[trophyhunt]

Yakama tribe has no limit on deer or elk. Bucks and bulls open year around, does and cows they only get 4 months.

Quinault tribe I looked up at one time but don't remember for sure. But I believe their limit was four deer and four elk per year. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know about any of the others. But I'm pretty sure the the Yakama tribe is the only one to have absolutely no limit.

Call them out individually if you disagree.

cmon green broke, let’s call a spade a spade, the yakamas have no limit, RIGHT?   And, tell me they prosecute their own, please !  I don’t believe your full of crap but if your trying to tell us the natives prosecute their members more than non natives get prosecuted by the state, WRONG!

[trophyhunt]

ZERO limit for yakamas on deer and elk people, period!  Look it up, ZERO!  How the “F” can you manage game with those unregulated limits?  It only takes 2-3 very bad seeds in the tribe, who have an axe to grind, to make an impact big enough to last generations!   But hey, just keep buying the jerky. 😡

[bobcat]

Yakama tribe has no limit on deer or elk. Bucks and bulls open year around, does and cows they only get 4 months.

Quinault tribe I looked up at one time but don't remember for sure. But I believe their limit was four deer and four elk per year. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know about any of the others. But I'm pretty sure the the Yakama tribe is the only one to have absolutely no limit.

Call them out individually if you disagree.

Not sure what you mean.

[KFhunter]

I think he means all for one and none for all, it's a free for all!

[cem3434]

You are truly clueless! Either that or just need to make excuses for your inability.

You haven't provided any information to refute my point. I'm not really sure what you mean by my inability either, as my freezers are full with game meat. This isn't about any persons ability to hunt, its about the blatant over harvest and unregulated seasons by many natives, in particular members of the Yakama tribe.

[cem3434]

In your back yard the tribes have been the solution, so much so that the season is improving to promote harvest. But keep you accusations, lies and excuses going they love it here on hatewa.

Please provide any data you have that suggests the natives have done anything to improve the game populations or opportunities for hunters in my backyard. The way I see it, you are the only one making accusations and spitting lies because you cannot support your statements. Are you really trying to defend a guy that is killing dozens of elk per year to support a jerky business by calling us liars and accusing us of spreading hate?