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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2018, 06:01:01 PM »
What stops a guy from coming back to the area after the 3 years are up?

What where did this come from? :dunno:
That is his guarantee that he won't sell the info more than 2x in a 3 year window.

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2018, 06:27:28 PM »
What stops a guy from coming back to the area after the 3 years are up?

What where did this come from? :dunno:
That is his guarantee that he won't sell the info more than 2x in a 3 year window.

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2018, 07:30:07 PM »
Man it is just sad to see what hunting is coming to. Everyone is just out to make a quick buck.

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@ian_padron   This is nothing new.

The guy that owns this forum sells trophy maps. Mostly the same thing.
Robby Denning, one of the owners of Rokslide has a business doing this, scouting for people for money.
Eastman's MRS
GoHunt
I'm sure there are more.

Personally I would love it if someday it was illegal to get paid for any hunting services whatsoever conducted on public lands, and leave the guiding/info selling/big money stuff on privately owned land. BUT that is just my personal wish, I know many will disagree

Do you mean the services and companies that support hunting like clothing or archery equipment or selling maps and coordinates?

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2018, 07:32:45 PM »
What stops a guy from coming back to the area after the 3 years are up?

What where did this come from? :dunno:

He said it's their area to hunt for 3 years on page 1.  He won't sell it to anyone else.  What stops them from coming back in year 4? 

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2018, 07:35:46 PM »
What stops a guy from coming back to the area after the 3 years are up?

What where did this come from? :dunno:

He said it's their area to hunt for 3 years on page 1.  He won't sell it to anyone else.  What stops them from coming back in year 4?
He already acknowledged nothing.

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2018, 07:35:54 PM »
What stops a guy from coming back to the area after the 3 years are up?

What where did this come from? :dunno:

He said it's their area to hunt for 3 years on page 1.  He won't sell it to anyone else.  What stops them from coming back in year 4?

Silly.  Its obvious what the intended statement is.
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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2018, 07:55:27 PM »
Man it is just sad to see what hunting is coming to. Everyone is just out to make a quick buck.

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@ian_padron   This is nothing new.

The guy that owns this forum sells trophy maps. Mostly the same thing.
Robby Denning, one of the owners of Rokslide has a business doing this, scouting for people for money.
Eastman's MRS
GoHunt
I'm sure there are more.

Personally I would love it if someday it was illegal to get paid for any hunting services whatsoever conducted on public lands, and leave the guiding/info selling/big money stuff on privately owned land. BUT that is just my personal wish, I know many will disagree
I certainly think any sort of commercial activity needs close regulation...especially on public lands.  All these info services selling maps, coordinates etc. should be no exception.  Based on bills already drafted in WY I bet it's a few years at most before this activity is regulated by States. 

The other side of the coin...whatever happened to putting in your own effort to figure out a hunt?  Such demand for instant success that there is a big enough market for this activity? 

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2018, 08:07:41 PM »
It may take 7 to 10 years to draw a tag, and require several thousand dollars in expenses for someone with a week to 10 vacation days for the trip. Subtract four travel days in many cases. I completely understand why someone would pay for this service.
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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2018, 08:15:43 PM »
It seems to make the most sense for out of state hunters on a draw tag.  As my poker playing brother likes to say "Your pot committed" 2-4 guys with a draw and 2500 is nothing for hat kind of info.

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2018, 08:57:27 PM »
In this case and others I've seen...it's not targeting hard to draw tags...easy to draw or otc tags are what this business model targets.
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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2018, 09:12:14 AM »
Man it is just sad to see what hunting is coming to. Everyone is just out to make a quick buck.

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2018, 09:16:06 AM »
What stops a guy from coming back to the area after the 3 years are up?

As others have already said... I just won’t sell a plan “for at least” 3 years after it is purchased. Even then I try not to sell it to a hunter using the same weapon as the original client. Once a group of hunters buys a plan they can hunt it for life. I would think they would! I’ve been in business for 4 years now and have only resold one plan and I got the ok from the hunter who first bought it. I learned as an outfitter that if you expect to stay in business you best do right by your clients because there’s this thing called the internet!  ;)
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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2018, 09:35:15 AM »
What stops a guy from coming back to the area after the 3 years are up?

As others have already said... I just won’t sell a plan “for at least” 3 years after it is purchased. Even then I try not to sell it to a hunter using the same weapon as the original client. Once a group of hunters buys a plan they can hunt it for life. I would think they would! I’ve been in business for 4 years now and have only resold one plan and I got the ok from the hunter who first bought it. I learned as an outfitter that if you expect to stay in business you best do right by your clients because there’s this thing called the internet!  ;)

Ok got it, I must have interpreted it wrong.  This makes more sense.

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2018, 10:32:30 AM »
I’m intrigued by this idea. I understand how some people may have a personal aversion to paying for this info, but I’m not a good enough hunter to have that sort of pride. Quite frankly, I don’t have many friends that hunt (due to the whole living in Seattle thing) and therefore have a pretty small network of people that I share scouting info with. I’ve generally shied away from elk hunting because I haven’t been willing to devote the time to thoroughly scouting on my own.

For your Wyoming spots, how many points do your areas usually require? I’m thinking about a Wyoming trip in 2019 or 2020 and will have 4 or 5 points. Would love to hear about some experiences from other members on here.

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Re: New Sponsor, Elk Hunt Consulting
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2018, 03:05:59 PM »
2 points will get you a guaranteed license. Three guarantees it cheaper. Go to Bowsite dot com and look for outfitter reports for some online reviews. I have plenty of references too. I have a good friend just east of you in Bellvue thst you can talk to as well. Maybe you guys can hook up and hunt together.
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