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Polar bear loads...?
« on: January 13, 2018, 09:14:50 AM »
I'm going to Barrow, AK in June to photograph riders, shorebirds, etc.  Where I'm going there are griz but more importantly polar bears that can be an issue.  I contemplated bringing just bear spray but I'll be out on the tundra miles from my vehicle at times.  Thinking of bringing my spray for my buddy to carry but I want a side arm.  I have a .40 SW Clock.  Nothing bigger but I'm comfy shooting it and have 11 rounds. 

Should I get a big game load for it and take it?  If so, do you suggest a load?  I have personal defense loads that won't be appropriate.   

Or do I borrow a 500 mag or something big from a friend?  I'm certain I got buddies that have something appropriate.  If I were going to do this often I'd buy a big handgun but I rarely have need for this type of a gun. 

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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2018, 09:20:56 AM »
If you can find a friend with a 10mm with some good hard cast bullets that could do the trick.. a Glock 20 holds 15 rounds of 10mm... Can get several warning shots as well as follow up shots as needed when you have 15 rounds to use..
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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2018, 09:21:45 AM »
If it was me, I’d be borrowing a .500 s&w. If they had a .600 I’d take that.
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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2018, 09:22:36 AM »
Here's a topic from a few months ago,everybody says just take the spray you will be ok that spray is like a 500 mag in a can,post your question here.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216060.0.html

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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2018, 09:33:06 AM »
What's different in my situation is the griz possibility is low compared to polar bear.  Nothing is taller than your shin out there and it's flat tundra so I'll see it coming.  I won't be jumping a griz in the willows.  My understanding is the polar bears come in slow and inquisitive, almost hunting you.  I think I'll have time and the idea of a warning shot sounds good to scare. 

Even if I spray a polar bear I still have to hike a half hour back to the truck.  I always carry spray for griz but thought this situation might be different.

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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2018, 09:48:33 AM »
I'd beg borrow or steal one of these
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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2018, 10:07:26 AM »
If you can see them coming from a distance like you stated then I would have 1) multiple sprays, maybe a small one that can be deployed while the bear is still a ways down wind( assuming they'll come from down wind if they're 'hunting' you) to let them know that you smell/taste terrible. 2) I would want something shoulder fired like a short 12 ga full of slugs. But I know nothing about polar bear behavior that's just personal preference

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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2018, 10:17:28 AM »
Your 40 will work. At the end of the day, if you shoot at him and hit him, it’ll do the job.


If you miss with a .40 or miss with a 500, your still polar bear crap.


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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2018, 10:26:10 AM »
I have no experience with the 40, but if you didn't feel it was enough and were considering a long gun I'd suggest a  Winchester SX3  Marine defender. 

5+1, sling studs, good value, light and handy relative to any other shotgun I've owned.  Sell it up there when you're ready to leave.  :twocents:



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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2018, 10:47:18 AM »
 :) 12 gauge and slugs.
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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2018, 11:33:39 AM »
:) 12 gauge and slugs.
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I agree that a short barreled 12 gauge with slugs is probably best especially if you see them coming. I’m not much of an authority on this topic but that setup seems pretty popular among Alaskan guides where the big bears live.
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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2018, 11:43:09 AM »
tundra = wind and long distances.    I would not take spray, I would not rely on a handgun



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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2018, 12:06:24 PM »
I have no experience with the 40, but if you didn't feel it was enough and were considering a long gun I'd suggest a  Winchester SX3  Marine defender. 

5+1, sling studs, good value, light and handy relative to any other shotgun I've owned.  Sell it up there when you're ready to leave.  :twocents:

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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2018, 01:17:36 PM »
I wouldnt rely on a handgun. A 12 gauge shotgun or 375 minimum would be my first choice. If you have to shoot you want to kill it quickly.

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Re: Polar bear loads...?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2018, 01:52:09 PM »
I spent a year working in Barrow. 2012-2013

Middle of June starts 100% sun, aka midnight sun.
A local polar bear sightseeing guide once told me the minimum hand gun he'd carry is a .44 mag with HOT loads. He'd rather ruin the gun than be dinner, but in 15 years he never had to shoot one
While not much grows tall, the tundra is rolling and a bears can hide. In June it's possible to still be covered in snow. Heck i saw it snow in July  :yike:.
The winds are so bad at times, I saw snow drifts go from 1' to 6' in hours.
Natives are allowed to hunt polar bears, but they typically try to have them away from town, if they keep hanging around they will shoot them.
While I was there I only saw 4 bears. A 10' that a local shot, an 8' that circled camp, but left. The others were a 12' that a native said was VERY BIG. The last one was a 6.5' that I helped dragged off the ice after a local killed it: 4 hits from a .270

In my opinion, I'd much prefer a 12ga with slugs  :twocents:
Like someone mentioned, you could sell it b4 leaving.

Barrow is a damp town, no alcohol sold to nonlocals.
If you were to take a 5th of $20 bottle, you can use it to barter. Selling it is illegal.

Mosquitoes are the worst enemy in the summer. They are HUGE and relentless. Take a screen hat.

Figure temps will vary from 25-60 In June.

 


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