300 WSM vs 300 Win mag

[BULLBLASTER]

I knew plenty of people would post and say I was wrong about the 30/06 versus 300 WSM.      

Notice I did say "if you're a handloader." Comparing my handloaded 30/06 velocity to factory loaded 300 WSM it's not a lot of difference.

Apples and oranges are almost exactly the same when compared too.

Exactly.

[jackelope]

So if you have a 30-06 and a 300wsm, both have 24” barrels and both are shooting the same 180 grain bullets, where do we land? Honey crisp Apples to Fuji apples.

[Karl Blanchard]

I knew plenty of people would post and say I was wrong about the 30/06 versus 300 WSM.      

Notice I did say "if you're a handloader." Comparing my handloaded 30/06 velocity to factory loaded 300 WSM it's not a lot of difference.

  the ammo that Cody was using yesterday was FACTORY hsm.  I would very much like to see you push 210gr pills at 2840 out of a 06 case, even with hand loads.

[Karl Blanchard]

So if you have a 30-06 and a 300wsm, both have 24” barrels and both are shooting the same 180 grain bullets, where do we land? Honey crisp Apples to Fuji apples.

a buddy of mine has a 26" pipe on his 06 which was also built by Mike.  180gr accubonds pushed very hard and he's sitting at 2900. So I'm 230fps faster with a bullet that is 5 gr heavier. 


It's all a mute point because both kill animals just as dead but the wsm out performs the 30/06 numbers wise all day every day and twice on sundays.  Just like the WM out performs the wsm

[Magnum_Willys]

I knew plenty of people would post and say I was wrong about the 30/06 versus 300 WSM.      

Notice I did say "if you're a handloader." Comparing my handloaded 30/06 velocity to factory loaded 300 WSM it's not a lot of difference.

  the ammo that Cody was using yesterday was FACTORY hsm.  I would very much like to see you push 210gr pills at 2840 out of a 06 case, even with hand loads.

 No opinion on mythical 30-06 but Its a stretch to call HSM stuff factory.  Have seen their loads lock up rifles which rarely happens with federal, remington, hornady “factory” rounds.

[Karl Blanchard]

I knew plenty of people would post and say I was wrong about the 30/06 versus 300 WSM.      

Notice I did say "if you're a handloader." Comparing my handloaded 30/06 velocity to factory loaded 300 WSM it's not a lot of difference.

  the ammo that Cody was using yesterday was FACTORY hsm.  I would very much like to see you push 210gr pills at 2840 out of a 06 case, even with hand loads.

 No opinion on mythical 30-06 but Its a stretch to call HSM stuff factory.  Have seen their loads lock up rifles which rarely happens with federal, remington, hornady “factory” rounds.

  I'm in no position to speak intelligently on that very little experience with Factory ammo. But you can buy it off the shelf so I categorize it as factory

[Karl Blanchard]

I knew plenty of people would post and say I was wrong about the 30/06 versus 300 WSM.      

Notice I did say "if you're a handloader." Comparing my handloaded 30/06 velocity to factory loaded 300 WSM it's not a lot of difference.

  the ammo that Cody was using yesterday was FACTORY hsm.  I would very much like to see you push 210gr pills at 2840 out of a 06 case, even with hand loads.

 No opinion on mythical 30-06 but Its a stretch to call HSM stuff factory.  Have seen their loads lock up rifles which rarely happens with federal, remington, hornady “factory” rounds.

  I'm in no position to speak intelligently on that very little experience with Factory ammo. But you can buy it off the shelf so I categorize it as factory

I'm running 212 eldx at 2900 out of the same length barrel for a reference

[bobcat]

If you're talking ammo loaded to equal pressure I believe the 30/06 and 300 WSM are about 200 fps apart.

[b23]

Running the numbers through QL, which is certainly not exact but my experience with it it's pretty dam close, and using a 185gr Berger, a max pressure load in a 24in tube 30-06 is 2850 FPS and using the same parameters in a 300 WSM it's 3090 fps.

[bobcat]

B23,

What does quickload show if the bullet was 165 grains?

[bullfisher]

I must be doing something wrong with my WM cause its never surpassed my WSM. Maybe my 4350 has gone south?

[b23]

B23,

What does quickload show if the bullet was 165 grains?

Do you have a specific bullet you want the numbers run with???

[bobcat]

B23,

What does quickload show if the bullet was 165 grains?

Do you have a specific bullet you want the numbers run with???

Nosler Accubond

[yorketransport]

So if you have a 30-06 and a 300wsm, both have 24” barrels and both are shooting the same 180 grain bullets, where do we land? Honey crisp Apples to Fuji apples.

No, I think you end up with a bitter old Granny Smith trying to compete with a flashy new Cosmic Crisp. 

[Woodchuck]

So if you have a 30-06 and a 300wsm, both have 24” barrels and both are shooting the same 180 grain bullets, where do we land? Honey crisp Apples to Fuji apples.

No, I think you end up with a bitter old Granny Smith trying to compete with a flashy new Cosmic Crisp. 

30-06 is actually more like a pink lady, wouldn't you say?