.25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor

[b23]

I'll take my chances with just about, anything, 6.5 over any of the quarter bore cartridges.  In fact, I'd nearly forgotten they still exist. 

[jackelope]

I'll take my chances with just about, anything, 6.5 over any of the quarter bore cartridges.  In fact, I'd nearly forgotten they still exist. 

Under 500 yards?

[b23]

I'll take my chances with just about, anything, 6.5 over any of the quarter bore cartridges.  In fact, I'd nearly forgotten they still exist. 

Under 500 yards?

At any distance.

For me, the .25cal just doesn't offer much.  IMO, the 6.5 just does everything better and on the low end of the bullet weight scale the .24cal does it better also.  I'm sure this will pis a lot of the quarter bore fans off but again, for me, the .25cal is one of those, it does things ok, it just doesn't do anything great.  Opinions will vary, but that's my take on it.

[2labs]

I'm a huge .25 caliber fan and the 25/06 is an outstanding cartridge. I think the creedmore is over rated, I would like to see a 6.5/06 factory rifle available and surprised it hasn't happened.

Hand loaded 6.5x55, ballistic challenge too the 300 win. Mag

[jackelope]

I'll take my chances with just about, anything, 6.5 over any of the quarter bore cartridges.  In fact, I'd nearly forgotten they still exist. 

Under 500 yards?

At any distance.

For me, the .25cal just doesn't offer much.  IMO, the 6.5 just does everything better and on the low end of the bullet weight scale the .24cal does it better also.  I'm sure this will pis a lot of the quarter bore fans off but again, for me, the .25cal is one of those, it does things ok, it just doesn't do anything great.  Opinions will vary, but that's my take on it.

I’m not trying to argue. Really just trying to learn, and you’re not going to piss me off but the article I posted had this data in it. I know it’s not set in stone but I’m curious your thoughts on this chart.



According to that data, the .25-06 is flatter than the 6.5 out to 600 yards. Not quite as fast and not quite as much energy but it’s not too far off either.

All that said, I’ve got plans to have a semi custom short action built in the next year or so and it’s more than likely going to be a 6.5 cm. I’m not particularly interested in real long range shooting but I would like to have something I’m comfortable shooting to 500 yards. 

[jackelope]

I'm a huge .25 caliber fan and the 25/06 is an outstanding cartridge. I think the creedmore is over rated, I would like to see a 6.5/06 factory rifle available and surprised it hasn't happened.

Hand loaded 6.5x55, ballistic challenge too the 300 win. Mag

You’re saying the 6.5 Swede runs with the .300 win mag ballistically?
You’re going to have to talk me into that.

[Biggerhammer]

Expierience Trumps forum ramblings.😘

[jackelope]

Expierience Trumps forum ramblings.😘

Would you stop it with that? Seriously. The nonstop insults get old. Im not sure who you’re talking to but I’m asking questions to gain experience.

[Biggerhammer]

I'm a huge .25 caliber fan and the 25/06 is an outstanding cartridge. I think the creedmore is over rated, I would like to see a 6.5/06 factory rifle available and surprised it hasn't happened.

Hand loaded 6.5x55, ballistic challenge too the 300 win. Mag

You’re saying the 6.5 Swede runs with the .300 win mag ballistically?
You’re going to have to talk me into that.

It will will be close depending on bullet weight. The energy won't be there for the Swede but trajectory and wind drift will be real close. With allot less recoil and barrel
Heat going to the Swede.

[Biggerhammer]

Expierience Trumps forum ramblings.😘

Would you stop it with that? Seriously. The nonstop insults get old. Im not sure who you’re talking to but I’m asking questions to gain experience.

WoW! That's not a insult.

[yorketransport]

I'm a huge .25 caliber fan and the 25/06 is an outstanding cartridge. I think the creedmore is over rated, I would like to see a 6.5/06 factory rifle available and surprised it hasn't happened.

Hand loaded 6.5x55, ballistic challenge too the 300 win. Mag

You’re saying the 6.5 Swede runs with the .300 win mag ballistically?
You’re going to have to talk me into that.

If you just look at trajectories, they're not too far apart. Trajectories of a 140gr load from a Creedmoor are almost there with a 190gr bullet from a 300 Win Mag. The 300 will win every time though if you use comparable bullets in each gun. The 300 can just move a bullet with a high BC faster than the Creedmoor ever will. Plus the 300 with crush the 6.5 in the energy department. Just try shooting at a heavy steel gong at 1000 yards with both a small 6.5 and a mid sized 30 caliber. The difference in how the target reacts is impressive.

[Biggerhammer]

 Back in the day the big .30's dominated the 1000 yard line in competition. Along came the 6.5-.284, Long before it was a factory chambering. The 6.5-284 and the Sierra 142gr MK changed the whole game and dominated it for a loooooooong time.

The 6.5 Swede is darn close to a 6.5-.284!

[yorketransport]

Back in the day the big .30's dominated the 1000 yard line in competition. Along came the 6.5-.284, Long before it was a factory chambering. The 6.5-284 and the Sierra 142gr MK changed the whole game and dominated it for a loooooooong time.

The 6.5 Swede is darn close to a 6.5-.284!

That's just because shooters are getting more delicate every year. They can't handle the recoil from a "beast" like the 300 Win Mag.

[Biggerhammer]

Back in the day the big .30's dominated the 1000 yard line in competition. Along came the 6.5-.284, Long before it was a factory chambering. The 6.5-284 and the Sierra 142gr MK changed the whole game and dominated it for a loooooooong time.

The 6.5 Swede is darn close to a 6.5-.284!

That's just because shooters are getting more delicate every year. They can't handle the recoil from a "beast" like the 300 Win Mag.

 

[bullfisher]

I'll take my chances with just about, anything, 6.5 over any of the quarter bore cartridges.  In fact, I'd nearly forgotten they still exist. 

Under 500 yards?

At any distance.

For me, the .25cal just doesn't offer much.  IMO, the 6.5 just does everything better and on the low end of the bullet weight scale the .24cal does it better also.  I'm sure this will pis a lot of the quarter bore fans off but again, for me, the .25cal is one of those, it does things ok, it just doesn't do anything great.  Opinions will vary, but that's my take on it.

I’m not trying to argue. Really just trying to learn, and you’re not going to piss me off but the article I posted had this data in it. I know it’s not set in stone but I’m curious your thoughts on this chart.



According to that data, the .25-06 is flatter than the 6.5 out to 600 yards. Not quite as fast and not quite as much energy but it’s not too far off either.

All that said, I’ve got plans to have a semi custom short action built in the next year or so and it’s more than likely going to be a 6.5 cm. I’m not particularly interested in real long range shooting but I would like to have something I’m comfortable shooting to 500 yards.

Ha. Look at that little 270 go! Terminal energy baby!