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Offline Dan-o

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #105 on: January 29, 2018, 07:34:32 PM »
It's really just marketing a specialized product to the masses.  Truth be told, unless you're target shooting at known long range distances the actual difference between the 112 year old 30-06 with a decent bullet and anything else in "MOST" North American hunting situations is nil.  Dead is dead, you can't engineer or design for a deader deer.  This is really all about marketers creating a fake need that their clients can fill by selling you a new 321 Whizbang, and we eat it up because it promises greater/easier success for a cash investment.  The better thing to do would be to increase trigger time behind that old -06 and increase your lethality that way.

People are easy to manipulate for a good marketer.  If folks would stop reading/watching the promotional garbage they call outdoor entertainment and spend more time having experiences with the good equipment they already have instead of spending money to have more things, they would be much happier.  Study after study proves this out.

But marketers and their client companies need us to be unsatisfied... So we will continue to have the 6.5 Creedmor and its kin.
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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #106 on: January 29, 2018, 07:38:29 PM »
I own a 6.5 and proud of it....but it's possible I own a lot of guns and am equally proud of them all. And when something new comes out I just might adopt another one. It pains me to see lonely guns.

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #107 on: January 29, 2018, 07:42:01 PM »
Try comparing the 6.5 Creedmor to the 270 Winchester. The 6.5's got nothing on that old cartridge. Introduced in 1925, and nearly 100 years later they come up with the 6.5 Creedmor. How's it any better in any way? Maybe less recoil, that's about it. 

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #108 on: January 29, 2018, 07:56:08 PM »
Try comparing the 6.5 Creedmor to the 270 Winchester. The 6.5's got nothing on that old cartridge. Introduced in 1925, and nearly 100 years later they come up with the 6.5 Creedmor. How's it any better in any way? Maybe less recoil, that's about it. 

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #109 on: January 29, 2018, 07:56:27 PM »
Try comparing the 6.5 Creedmor to the 270 Winchester. The 6.5's got nothing on that old cartridge. Introduced in 1925, and nearly 100 years later they come up with the 6.5 Creedmor. How's it any better in any way? Maybe less recoil, that's about it.

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Also the amount of recoil between those two cartridges is insignificant, the 270 shooting a 140gn is right at 17lbs of felt recoil and the 6.5 is right at 15lbs of felt recoil with same weight bullet traveling at 300 fps slower than the 270.

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #110 on: January 29, 2018, 08:07:19 PM »
Try comparing the 6.5 Creedmor to the 270 Winchester. The 6.5's got nothing on that old cartridge. Introduced in 1925, and nearly 100 years later they come up with the 6.5 Creedmor. How's it any better in any way? Maybe less recoil, that's about it.

The 270 needs a longer action than the Creedmoor. Last time I tried to cycle 270 through a short action it didn't work so well.....

As much as I dislike the Creedmoor, it does work very well for the guys who have them. Even if it means that they have a man bun and carry around a Kestrel which they twirl around like an Olympic ribbon dancer to "zero" the unit.  :chuckle:

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #111 on: January 29, 2018, 08:12:37 PM »
Try comparing the 6.5 Creedmor to the 270 Winchester. The 6.5's got nothing on that old cartridge. Introduced in 1925, and nearly 100 years later they come up with the 6.5 Creedmor. How's it any better in any way? Maybe less recoil, that's about it.

The 270 needs a longer action than the Creedmoor. Last time I tried to cycle 270 through a short action it didn't work so well.....

As much as I dislike the Creedmoor, it does work very well for the guys who have them. Even if it means that they have a man bun and carry around a Kestrel which they twirl around like an Olympic ribbon dancer to "zero" the unit.  :chuckle:
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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #112 on: January 29, 2018, 08:23:32 PM »
I like my 2506 for flat shooting within reason.   Its better than the 6.5 at doing just that.   Beyond reason,  past 700 yards,  the 6.5 shines.   Figure out the holdover of your favorite cartridges at 1500 yards.

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #113 on: January 31, 2018, 06:37:33 PM »
I like my 2506 for flat shooting within reason.   Its better than the 6.5 at doing just that.   Beyond reason,  past 700 yards,  the 6.5 shines.   Figure out the holdover of your favorite cartridges at 1500 yards.
I like my 2506 for flat shooting within reason.   Its better than the 6.5 at doing just that.   Beyond reason,  past 700 yards,  the 6.5 shines.   Figure out the holdover of your favorite cartridges at 1500 yards.
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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #114 on: January 31, 2018, 07:27:11 PM »
I like my 2506 for flat shooting within reason.   Its better than the 6.5 at doing just that.   Beyond reason,  past 700 yards,  the 6.5 shines.   Figure out the holdover of your favorite cartridges at 1500 yards.

The hold over on my favorite long range cartridge at 1500 yards is confirmed as 9.8 MILs. Beat that with the Creedmoor.  :chuckle:

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #115 on: January 31, 2018, 07:34:59 PM »
I like my 2506 for flat shooting within reason.   Its better than the 6.5 at doing just that.   Beyond reason,  past 700 yards,  the 6.5 shines.   Figure out the holdover of your favorite cartridges at 1500 yards.

The hold over on my favorite long range cartridge at 1500 yards is confirmed as 9.8 MILs. Beat that with the Creedmoor.  :chuckle: 👍
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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #116 on: January 31, 2018, 07:49:35 PM »
I believe the 6.5 gained its popularity thru f-class shooting then the hunters jumped aboard. All great cartridges but personally wouldn't hunt with one

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #117 on: January 31, 2018, 08:04:54 PM »
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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2018, 08:10:36 PM »
Try comparing the 6.5 Creedmor to the 270 Winchester. The 6.5's got nothing on that old cartridge. Introduced in 1925, and nearly 100 years later they come up with the 6.5 Creedmor. How's it any better in any way? Maybe less recoil, that's about it.

The 270 needs a longer action than the Creedmoor. Last time I tried to cycle 270 through a short action it didn't work so well.....

As much as I dislike the Creedmoor, it does work very well for the guys who have them. Even if it means that they have a man bun and carry around a Kestrel which they twirl around like an Olympic ribbon dancer to "zero" the unit.  :chuckle:

You are forgetting the teathered couch cushion and the endless excuses of why they didn't go to "shot" this year

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Re: .25-06 beats out the 6.5 Creedmoor
« Reply #119 on: January 31, 2018, 08:26:39 PM »
I hear that next year they’re going to rename SHOT to the “Creedmoor Rifles And Parts” show. They’re calling it CRAP for short. That way everybody knows what to expect even if they’re not part of “the movement”.

 


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