7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag for elk

[N7XW]

   good input, thanks guys

[N7XW]

Thinking about getting a 300 wm in Savage® Arms Model 10T-SR Tactical Bolt-Action Rifle with Threaded Barrel.  The Cabelas sale starts tomorrow and is $100 off.  SWFA has the SS 3-15 on sale for $200 off also.  Always searching for what I want in a good deal 

[BULLBLASTER]

What's the downside to a belted magnum?  Or disadvantages vs. a short magnum?

Only answer I Can come to about why the belted are bad is because either people read it online somewhere or they don’t know how to set up their dies for reloading.
It is really a nonissue.

[BULLBLASTER]

I say 300 win hands down for elk. I’ve killed them with 7mm and 30 cal and 30 cal is more better.

[N7XW]

Certainly leaning toward the 300 wm.

[Jonathan_S]

I personally wouldn’t want a dedicated elk rifle that didn’t have a wide array of well made 200 grain bullets to shoot from.

The 7 RM lacks nothing but I wouldn’t ever choose it over the 300 WM, especially for banging them out there a long way

[N7XW]

Guess I should have mentioned I already have a 30-06 which, from the little ballistics comparison I did, seems similar in performance to the 7mm Rem Mag to a certain point.  So, the 300 Win Mag seems to make more sense...maybe 

[b23]

What's the downside to a belted magnum?  Or disadvantages vs. a short magnum?

Only answer I Can come to about why the belted are bad is because either people read it online somewhere or they don’t know how to set up their dies for reloading.
It is really a nonissue.

The problem with belted cases is there is no good way to resize them once they've swelled just above the belt.  Also, as BULLBLASTER alluded to, setting up your dies properly so they don't push the shoulder back, until needed, is important if you want the best accuracy.  For best accuracy you want the case to headspace off the shoulder, not the belt.

[N7XW]

What's the downside to a belted magnum?  Or disadvantages vs. a short magnum?

Only answer I Can come to about why the belted are bad is because either people read it online somewhere or they don’t know how to set up their dies for reloading.
It is really a nonissue.

The problem with belted cases is there is no good way to resize them once they've swelled just above the belt.  Also, as BULLBLASTER alluded to, setting up your dies properly so they don't push the shoulder back, until needed, is important if you want the best accuracy.  For best accuracy you want the case to headspace off the shoulder, not the belt.

Makes me wonder how factory ammo headspaces?

[bobcat]

I neck size only my 338 Win. Mag. brass so it headspaces on the shoulder.

[h20hunter]

What's the downside to a belted magnum?  Or disadvantages vs. a short magnum?

Only answer I Can come to about why the belted are bad is because either people read it online somewhere or they don’t know how to set up their dies for reloading.
It is really a nonissue.

The problem with belted cases is there is no good way to resize them once they've swelled just above the belt.  Also, as BULLBLASTER alluded to, setting up your dies properly so they don't push the shoulder back, until needed, is important if you want the best accuracy.  For best accuracy you want the case to headspace off the shoulder, not the belt.

Look into a collett die.

[superdown]

Thinking about getting a 300 wm in Savage® Arms Model 10T-SR Tactical Bolt-Action Rifle with Threaded Barrel.  The Cabelas sale starts tomorrow and is $100 off.  SWFA has the SS 3-15 on sale for $200 off also.  Always searching for what I want in a good deal 

I bought this rifle in 300WM during Christmas time when Cabelas had it on sale for $550 and Savage had the $100 rebate.I haven't shot the rifle no scope yet but i like it already.I picked up a couple of boxes of Hornady200grn eld match mv 2930 fps. IDK if you've held one yet but it's got some weight to it.

[N7XW]

Thinking about getting a 300 wm in Savage® Arms Model 10T-SR Tactical Bolt-Action Rifle with Threaded Barrel.  The Cabelas sale starts tomorrow and is $100 off.  SWFA has the SS 3-15 on sale for $200 off also.  Always searching for what I want in a good deal 

I bought this rifle in 300WM during Christmas time when Cabelas had it on sale for $550 and Savage had the $100 rebate.I haven't shot the rifle no scope yet but i like it already.I picked up a couple of boxes of Hornady200grn eld match mv 2930 fps. IDK if you've held one yet but it's got some weight to it.

   Haven't held one but they do look hefty. 

[BULLBLASTER]

What's the downside to a belted magnum?  Or disadvantages vs. a short magnum?

Only answer I Can come to about why the belted are bad is because either people read it online somewhere or they don’t know how to set up their dies for reloading.
It is really a nonissue.

The problem with belted cases is there is no good way to resize them once they've swelled just above the belt.  Also, as BULLBLASTER alluded to, setting up your dies properly so they don't push the shoulder back, until needed, is important if you want the best accuracy.  For best accuracy you want the case to headspace off the shoulder, not the belt.

I’ve never had any issues with that. I have 7 mag cases with 9 ejector imprints on the case head. Yes I know they were on the verge of if not completely over pressure but that’s where my gun shot that combo well. Minimal shoulder movement when sizing and not mixing brass between guns and imo there is zero issue.
I finally retired that brass before I got my annealing marching because the necks work hardened enough that they would no longer size down and hold a bullet.

[BULLBLASTER]

What's the downside to a belted magnum?  Or disadvantages vs. a short magnum?

Only answer I Can come to about why the belted are bad is because either people read it online somewhere or they don’t know how to set up their dies for reloading.
It is really a nonissue.

The problem with belted cases is there is no good way to resize them once they've swelled just above the belt.  Also, as BULLBLASTER alluded to, setting up your dies properly so they don't push the shoulder back, until needed, is important if you want the best accuracy.  For best accuracy you want the case to headspace off the shoulder, not the belt.

Makes me wonder how factory ammo headspaces?

Off the belt