Bh209 in an Encore

[mallardaddict]

I had my heart set on the Knight Ultralight to replace my old t/c black diamond but now that 209’s and sealed breeches are legal I’ve decided to dust off my Encore Pro Hunter.

I’ve had it a few years and never used it as anything except a turkey gun with the 12ga barrel but have found a clean used .50 ML barrel and forend for it cheap so going to try it this year.

With the ability to use a 209 I figured I would start with BH209 for powder.  I’ve ran lots of 777 in the Black diamond but if bh209 truly cleans easier and doesn’t cause the crud ring I am having a hard time not atleast trying it.

I know not many folks here likely have run bh209 but I believe Sabotloader has atleast played with it so I am looking for load/bullet ideas. My initial thought is the barnes 290gr TEZ or the 300gr Knight Bloodlines.

That said I am open to suggestions.

[jackelope]

Technically 209 primers aren't legal yet. Were sealed breeches part of that too?

[Bob33]

209 primers are not legal in Washington during muzzleloader seasons.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-414-060

(a) Ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using original style percussion caps that fit on the nipple and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be visible and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper. Primers designed to be used in modern cartridges are not legal.

[bobcat]

Not legal at this moment but will be if the proposal is adopted, which we will know within a few weeks.

[jackelope]

So....does a 209 primer automatically make the breech sealed to the elements? I see where the old law said the breech couldn't be sealed....now that's all crossed out and it just says the part about the 209 primers being legal.

[bobcat]

209's don't necessarily have to be in a sealed ignition, but I believe most guns that use 209's are. In the law they're removing that stipulation as well. Makes sense so people can buy just about any muzzleloader, and it will be legal to hunt with.

By the way, the meeting that will adopt the 3 year package is March 15-17 in Wenatchee.

[jackelope]

Gotcha. That's kind of what I figured I guess.

[mallardaddict]

I understand that 209’s are not technically allowed yet but calls to 3 people at regional wdfw offices have stated that the hubbub is that this will pass without issue so I am willing to take that chance.  If it doesn’t pass then I am not out much as the barrel I bought was crazy cheap and new in wrapper.

[bobcat]

I would be shocked if it didn't pass. About 99.99% of the time proposals are adopted as written.

[floatinghat]

Same org that lost 500K steelhead smolt on the Cow, returned wolves, don't truely support sportsmen, the list goes on.

[bobcat]

Same org that lost 500K steelhead smolt on the Cow, returned wolves, don't truely support sportsmen, the list goes on.

Posted in the wrong thread, I assume?   

[Bob33]

I would be shocked if it didn't pass. About 99.99% of the time proposals are adopted as written.

Lighted nocks didn't pass the first year they were introduced. I believe that's been true of several proposed changes.

[bobcat]

I would be shocked if it didn't pass. About 99.99% of the time proposals are adopted as written.

Lighted nocks didn't pass the first year they were introduced. I believe that's been true of several proposed changes.

Okay, well it will be interesting to see for sure. Won't affect me as I already purchased my modern firearm tags. I think the lighted nocks issue a little more controversial.

[Bob33]

I would be shocked if it didn't pass. About 99.99% of the time proposals are adopted as written.

Lighted nocks didn't pass the first year they were introduced. I believe that's been true of several proposed changes.

Okay, well it will be interesting to see for sure. Won't affect me as I already purchased my modern firearm tags. I think the lighted nocks issue a little more controversial.

Didn't the baiting changes also take a couple years to get approved?

[Special T]

I would be shocked if it didn't pass. About 99.99% of the time proposals are adopted as written.

Lighted nocks didn't pass the first year they were introduced. I believe that's been true of several proposed changes.

Okay, well it will be interesting to see for sure. Won't affect me as I already purchased my modern firearm tags. I think the lighted nocks issue a little more controversial.

Lighted knocks were an issue because pope and young did not accept them into the records. The rules changed just after Washington adapted it's rules. 2c

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