Long range for beginners

[Karl Blanchard]

Personally I have never looked threw one but I’ve never been a fan of ballistic compensation turrets.  Conditions just change too much. Under 600 yards it’s prob not much but beyond that I’ll take moa or mil.  Jmo

I guess that's one way I get a little lost, I don't know the difference between turrets, what is the difference between "ballistic compensation turrets" and others? Do you mean because they are .33 instead of .25 per click?

yardage marked turrets vs turrets marked in moa or mil. 

[bearpaw]

Personally I have never looked threw one but I’ve never been a fan of ballistic compensation turrets.  Conditions just change too much. Under 600 yards it’s prob not much but beyond that I’ll take moa or mil.  Jmo

I guess that's one way I get a little lost, I don't know the difference between turrets, what is the difference between "ballistic compensation turrets" and others? Do you mean because they are .33 instead of .25 per click?

yardage marked turrets vs turrets marked in moa or mil.

Exactly the type of info I'm looking for, thanks! Does that make the scope harder to understand? Sorry for the basic questions!

[Karl Blanchard]

Technically makes it easier since you just range and then dial to that yardage.  No ballistic app or calculation required.  As jasnt eluded to though, that yardage turret is built off of one set of conditions so wont be as accurate as imputing atmospheric conditions for each shot.  That said, I've shot as well as watched Coach shoot his huskemaw topped 6.5 past a grand incredibly accurately.

With some of the whiz bang calculators out there like the sig 2400 or g7, they make moa or mil turrets just as fast as a yardage turret. 

[jasnt]

Personally I have never looked threw one but I’ve never been a fan of ballistic compensation turrets.  Conditions just change too much. Under 600 yards it’s prob not much but beyond that I’ll take moa or mil.  Jmo

I guess that's one way I get a little lost, I don't know the difference between turrets, what is the difference between "ballistic compensation turrets" and others? Do you mean because they are .33 instead of .25 per click?

the ballistic comp turrets are marked in yardage and not mil or moa.  Not all the huskemaw scopes are ballistic turrets. You have to Order the right turrets for your load and altitude.     That link you posted said it comes with the ballistic comp turrets. 
Like I said I have not used one but I have read a lot of reviews on them.   I’ve read they have decent glass and tracking but I’ve also read you can do better for the price. 

[Magnum_Willys]

You can order custom yardage turrets with moa markings on them also. 

[BULLBLASTER]

You can order custom yardage turrets with moa markings on them also.

You need to charge your phone sir! 

I’ve tried the yardage turrets on a couple rifles over the years and always come back to the moa dials. I just prefer it.

I have witnessed Coachcw make some crazy shots with his yardage dial in his 6.5 284 but am convinced he has magic when that gun is in his hands. A well oiled machine (except his knees) and ice water in his vanes.

The huskemaws adjust in 1/3 moa clicks which is very close to .1 mil clicks so keep that in mind if you go that way and are used to 1/4 moa clicks.

[yorketransport]

It's been confusing to me deciding what scope to use on a particular .338 caliber rifle, do any of you have any experience with this scope?
https://www.longrangestore.com/Huskemaw_Optics_Tactical_Series_5_30x56_Scope_p/10530ho.htm

I'm wondering what you consider to be the pros and cons of this scope?

The Huskemaw scopes are good optics, they're right there with the Sightron SIII line. The glass is as good as you'll ever need but they probably wouldn't survive the same abuse as something like a NF NXS.

For the turrets, I don't think you'd have any problems with them. Average out the conditions that you'll shoot in and just have them calibrated for those. The problem you might run into is the fact that you'll run into so many different conditions while you're out hunting since you're not exactly a "local" hunter. Like others said though, the click value is still the same .3 MOA regardless of how the turret is marked. If you're ever worried about your drops beyond 500 yards or so because of the different conditions, you can always just plug your info into a ballistic calculator and count clicks.

[bearpaw]

Thanks for all the comments, that's helping me understand better. 

[BULLBLASTER]

Thanks for all the comments, that's helping me understand better. 

If you want I am willing to trade a crash course in scope turrets and adjustments for a guided hunt! Just let me know. 


This thread is a great place to ask questions. Keep them coming. Lots of good info

[jasnt]

Thought this was pretty interesting.  Some say displacement is displacement and the short fat cases just can’t be “more efficient” than long slender.  Ect.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93kVM22XHSo&t=305s

[Yondering]

Thought this was pretty interesting.  Some say displacement is displacement and the short fat cases just can’t be “more efficient” than long slender.  Ect.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93kVM22XHSo&t=305s

I think that guy in the video is misguided about this topic. Several things wrong with his comparison:

- He's using primers to judge pressure
- Different barrels
- Different chamber throats

He's using single samples of two different things to draw a conclusion that can't actually be supported with the information he presented.
Also, his analogy of the 2 lane vs 4 lane highway is silly; the "bottleneck" in that analogy is still the case neck, not the case body.

[jasnt]

A proper test would be to take the 6.5/06 barrel. Break it in. Do your test then cut enough off the back. Then chamber and thread so it has the exact same throat and length of rifling.


Like I said it was interesting

[jasnt]

Good read on mirage
https://loadoutroom.com/12938/snipers-mirage-tip-week/?fbclid=IwAR0KKX1qHDEo1R4DcUd0pfYh0w8cbWlJbzrdei3YfXHmG2D4GYXJD-LKJz0

[jasnt]

Found this today

[buckfvr]

Personally I have never looked threw one but I’ve never been a fan of ballistic compensation turrets.  Conditions just change too much. Under 600 yards it’s prob not much but beyond that I’ll take moa or mil.  Jmo

I guess that's one way I get a little lost, I don't know the difference between turrets, what is the difference between "ballistic compensation turrets" and others? Do you mean because they are .33 instead of .25 per click?

BC turrets are so generic as to be too much of a compromise.  Kenton Ind. turrets would be a better option, but still a compromise from moa or mil turrets used correctly.  Once you properly zero your rifle and collect data, and then enter it into an app, if done right, you can really get some great results.  Along the way, it helps to have a Kestrel, a Magneto Speed,  quality ammo, quality range finder, etc., to help you get from collecting data for your program, and then feeding your current data where you plan to take a shot, into your app.  Takes a bit to get used to but nothing impractical for the average guy.