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So NWCD wont due any of my diesel upgrades unless I trailer the truck in and out and sign an off road use only waiver because of government telling us what we can and cant do with the vehicles we pay taxes on 3 or 4 times. Im not looking for a ton of extra power, bullet proof it and make it reliable with better mileage and a little better performance. Any ideas?
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2018, 12:07:34 PM »
Randy's Offroad in Smokey Point might help you out
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2018, 12:15:02 PM »
It sounds like you are asking for more than a few "upgrades" and instead wanting some things changed or removed that wouldn't be legal, correct?

I would guess any reputable shop would say the same thing, not worth their license and potential fines.  Also, if they would be willing to break the law for you for money, I would be suspect of their work, because I doubt there would be any warranty and probably a cash only deal...

Think about it, someone walks in and asks you to break the law for them, what would YOUR answer be? 

Probably have to do it yourself.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2018, 12:16:50 PM »
It's illegal to do what you want to do. That's why nobody wants to do it.  The shop would be at risk of huge fines at a minimum.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2018, 12:18:57 PM »
When you say EGR delete, exhaust mod's and bulletproof it, I'm curious what your budget is and what specifically you're looking for in terms of exhaust mods. I might be able to help you with some of it, providing it's legal. I won't even think about doing an EGR delete. It's a 6.4, right?

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 12:30:15 PM »
If it is a matter of signing the paper and throwing on a trailer...that seems reasonable  :dunno:

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2018, 12:34:22 PM »
If it is a matter of signing the paper and throwing on a trailer...that seems reasonable  :dunno:

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2018, 12:43:53 PM »
Try outlaw diesel repair in Spanaway

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2018, 01:09:19 PM »
I understand legality issue and really dont like the fact to make my truck more reliable and better for using like its meant to be used its "illegal" because politicians say so. If i was more mechanically inclined towards diesels I would do it myself but I know my limits.

Jackelope, yes its a 6.4, my budget will be about 10 grand give or take. What I was looking to do was the deletes, a new full exhaust, intercooler, fuel system, and whatever the mechanic recommended for reliability and a little better mileage. I really appreciate the help.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2018, 01:26:46 PM »
I understand legality issue and really dont like the fact to make my truck more reliable and better for using like its meant to be used its "illegal" because politicians say so. If i was more mechanically inclined towards diesels I would do it myself but I know my limits.

Jackelope, yes its a 6.4, my budget will be about 10 grand give or take. What I was looking to do was the deletes, a new full exhaust, intercooler, fuel system, and whatever the mechanic recommended for reliability and a little better mileage. I really appreciate the help.

No offense, but just because you don't think it's right or wrong doesn't change the fact that the shop is at risk of huge fines or more if they're caught doing any emissions modifications.
 

Read here:
http://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/Articles.asp?ID=296

I've done Bulletproof Diesel stuff here before. It's not cheap but it's good stuff.

http://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/product-p/90409200.htm

http://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/EGR-Cooler-Complete-Kit-Ford-6-4L-p/90409010.htm

http://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/Bullet-Proof-Diesel-Water-Pump-for-6-4L-Diesel-p/90201127.htm


There is a lot of good info on their website.



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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2018, 01:29:54 PM »
My truck came from Montana where the delete was done but I guess it's legal for a dealer in Washington to sell a vehicle like that. That being said maybe take it out of state and have it done. Check with Spartan Tuners also. From what I understand the tuner can really do a lot for a diesel, mileage and horsepower and they run about $1500.00.

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2018, 01:33:33 PM »
And yet I've got liberal friends who constantly say, "where and when has the government taken our Freedoms?" :bash:
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2018, 01:39:01 PM »
My truck came from Montana where the delete was done but I guess it's legal for a dealer in Washington to sell a vehicle like that. That being said maybe take it out of state and have it done. Check with Spartan Tuners also. From what I understand the tuner can really do a lot for a diesel, mileage and horsepower and they run about $1500.00.

Not legal to sell either. Someone wasn't paying attention.

And the law is federal, not state.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2018, 01:42:27 PM »
Wow!!! Well if I get busted then I'm singing like Canary!! :chuckle:

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2018, 02:13:34 PM »
I appreciate, I know how I feel doesnt change it, still sucks though. I appreciate the info.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2018, 02:22:57 PM »
Weird how some of you guys are all fire an brimstone when it comes to breaking the law on some things but not others.

Ive seen threads on this site where everybody is ready to lynch the guy who throws a beer bottle in the forest, but its cool to drive your diesel truck minus the egr for 300k miles?

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2018, 02:49:33 PM »
My truck came like that so that's the way it's gonna stay unless directed otherwise. Sure not going to pay the $$ to have it put back to factory. I wanted a truck with manual transmission so that's what I got.  :twocents:

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2018, 03:51:28 PM »
You will have to do it yourself or find a person with skills.  A shop isn't going to do it most likely.  Not really that hard.  Some tuners simply by pass it without removal I think.  I know I would not want it on my truck so I feel for ya.  When they fail it can do damage... I bought older to avoid this emission crap. 6.4 can be a powerhouse when set-up correct, good luck. Suggest reading forums on your truck.  Tons of good info.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2018, 04:09:02 PM »
I did it on my 6.0 myself, there is a lot of good information on it if you search forums or find a video on youtube.  I did the EGR delete, straight piped it, 75HP injectors, bigger turbo, billet HPOP, Fass fuel system and an SCT tuner with custom tunes and it was a fun truck to drive and I averaged 20mpg and it had a 6" lift an 35's

Like others said shops will not do the work so it is either have a buddy do it or do it yourself but if you do your research and take your time it is easy.

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2018, 06:38:39 PM »
I think I will try out the bulletproof diesel egr amd oil cooler set up to see how they work out. That way no broken laws, even if they are bs.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2018, 06:40:36 PM »
I think I will try out the bulletproof diesel egr amd oil cooler set up to see how they work out. That way no broken laws, even if they are bs.

If you're going to tune it and bump the turbo boost, you might consider ARP head studs. Or plan on doing them later if a head gasket blows. It's a fair amount additional labor to do and the stud kit is like $600-ish.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2018, 06:47:14 PM »
+1 for doing ARP studs or make sure you have the extra cash for them if the head gaskets go.  I did them on my truck but luckily my buddy has a 2 post lift so wasn’t to bad to pull the cab.

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2018, 06:54:35 PM »
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2018, 09:11:10 AM »
I met a guy in Idaho a few years ago and he got to telling me about hot rod diesel motors and how you could get huge power easy out of a diesel. Said his Ford was so fast it was just incredible.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2018, 11:20:02 AM »
Thats why im not looking to maoe a powerhouse haha, I love powerstrokes but Ive seen to many of those race and pulling diesels turn into a rolling grenade.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2018, 06:12:07 PM »
Do it yourself, I did mine on my 6.7 with my buddy in a weekend, it wasn’t that bad. YouTube is your friend!

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2018, 06:51:36 PM »
Look guys, Im an at home gunsmith and when I have my tools there isnt much I cant do, but a diesel mechanic I am not. I can do my basic mechanics to keep her runnin and get home but takimg the cab off and digging into major parts I will not. I like the truck to much for me to personally kill it.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2018, 08:30:21 PM »
I had dynomite diesel in Monroe work on the fuel system on my 6.0.  Very good customer service and a speedy turn around, will be returning in the future.

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2018, 08:17:44 AM »
I have been thinking of doing the same thing to my 2012 6.7 powerstoke now that the warranty is finally over.  I am getting tired of the "cleaning exhaust" indicator coming on.  I have already had the egr cooler replaced and I only have 65,000 miles on it.  Everything is bolt on, so it seems pretty straight forward for a guy to do himself that is mechanically inclined.  Just need to figure out what programmer tongo with.  I will say that the resale worries me if I go that route though.

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2018, 12:56:30 PM »
I have been thinking of doing the same thing to my 2012 6.7 powerstoke now that the warranty is finally over.  I am getting tired of the "cleaning exhaust" indicator coming on.  I have already had the egr cooler replaced and I only have 65,000 miles on it.  Everything is bolt on, so it seems pretty straight forward for a guy to do himself that is mechanically inclined.  Just need to figure out what programmer tongo with.  I will say that the resale worries me if I go that route though.

If it truly is all bolt-on, no reason a person couldn't just box up the take off parts and store them until time to sell, then reinstall? 

Granted it would be a of pain to redo the undo, but shouldn't hurt resale value then as it would be back to stock configuration.

Of course, that is a D.Y.I. job and not paying a shop...
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2018, 07:06:09 AM »
Do it yourself, I did mine on my 6.7 with my buddy in a weekend, it wasn’t that bad. YouTube is your friend!
It is easy, ordered my new exhaust from alligator performance in Idaho, had it to my house in 3 days.  with the edge chip and no muffler or cat, my mileage went up a lot! love it and it's not that much louder, no smoke either off my duramax.  Should have done this years ago!  The exhaust was only about 300 bucks.  Since this pic my mileage has gone up to 17.6, was 11.5 ish.
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2018, 07:27:20 AM »
Had mine done a few months back because I had so many issues with sensors in my duramax going out all the time and throwing me in limp mode. I literally had my truck at the dealership for a month and a half the final time. Cost me 1500 bucks they slapped a new air system in it and told me it was good to go. Didn’t even get home and I was in limp mode again. Come to find out it was a factory recalled sensor 😡. I found a mechanic that a bunch of my buddies have used and took it to him at his house as a side project. I bought all the parts and he did all the work for 500$. I would suggest finding a situation like that because any shop I contacted wanted 1000-1500$ for labor. Truck is awesome now! 5 mpg better fuel economy and a ton more power. Truck runs and feels great. Should have seen the black chunky crap fly out the exhaust when we first started it after work was completed. I am a firm believer that the exhaust systems on these trucks these days kill the vehicle! I will always delete from now on, it’s a night and day difference on the way these trucks perform. Of course I kept all parts just in case I have to convert back for some dumb reason  :chuckle:

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2018, 07:35:55 AM »
Had mine done a few months back because I had so many issues with sensors in my duramax going out all the time and throwing me in limp mode. I literally had my truck at the dealership for a month and a half the final time. Cost me 1500 bucks they slapped a new air system in it and told me it was good to go. Didn’t even get home and I was in limp mode again. Come to find out it was a factory recalled sensor 😡. I found a mechanic that a bunch of my buddies have used and took it to him at his house as a side project. I bought all the parts and he did all the work for 500$. I would suggest finding a situation like that because any shop I contacted wanted 1000-1500$ for labor. Truck is awesome now! 5 mpg better fuel economy and a ton more power. Truck runs and feels great. Should have seen the black chunky crap fly out the exhaust when we first started it after work was completed. I am a firm believer that the exhaust systems on these trucks these days kill the vehicle! I will always delete from now on, it’s a night and day difference on the way these trucks perform. Of course I kept all parts just in case I have to convert back for some dumb reason  :chuckle:
:yeah: kept my old parts as well.  Another thing my edge fixed, my Speedo now reads the correct speed I’m driving. With my 35’s I was always going faster than Speedo said.  And I agree, from now on every truck I buy will get this exhaust system!  Except I can’t afford-or better yet- won’t spend 80,000 on a new truck so I’ll probably drive this till the wheels fall off!
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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2018, 07:40:17 AM »
Had mine done a few months back because I had so many issues with sensors in my duramax going out all the time and throwing me in limp mode. I literally had my truck at the dealership for a month and a half the final time. Cost me 1500 bucks they slapped a new air system in it and told me it was good to go. Didn’t even get home and I was in limp mode again. Come to find out it was a factory recalled sensor 😡. I found a mechanic that a bunch of my buddies have used and took it to him at his house as a side project. I bought all the parts and he did all the work for 500$. I would suggest finding a situation like that because any shop I contacted wanted 1000-1500$ for labor. Truck is awesome now! 5 mpg better fuel economy and a ton more power. Truck runs and feels great. Should have seen the black chunky crap fly out the exhaust when we first started it after work was completed. I am a firm believer that the exhaust systems on these trucks these days kill the vehicle! I will always delete from now on, it’s a night and day difference on the way these trucks perform. Of course I kept all parts just in case I have to convert back for some dumb reason  :chuckle:
:yeah: kept my old parts as well.  Another thing my edge fixed, my Speedo now reads the correct speed I’m driving. With my 35’s I was always going faster than Speedo said.  And I agree, from now on every truck I buy will get this exhaust system!  Except I can’t afford-or better yet- won’t spend 80,000 on a new truck so I’ll probably drive this till the wheels fall off!

Yep tuner fixed my speedometer as well. And yes I agree on the brand new truck cost. I will let someone else take the brand new cost hit and buy used when I have to. My truck just turned 72000 miles so will be keeping it for awhile.

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Re: Good place on the West Side for egr delete and exhaust upgrade?
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2018, 07:56:14 AM »
 :yeah:  Remove the Gov. from your truck and then u get what ya pd for!  Better for truck and your wallet to boot!  No need for $75k truck when the old ones will work just as hard! :twocents:
MAGA!  Again..

 


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