Out of the points game

[elkspert]

So I have a buddy who is sitting on 12 quality elk points who wants to be done with hunting Washington. He doesn't really care about the size of bull and doesn't want to put in for any east side tags. What are your guys thoughts on a bull hunt on the west side where he might have a chance of getting drawn and possibly getting an opportunity at a rag horn type bull. Also he is not going to be buying any timber permits so any of the private timber land is out of the question.

[SkookumHntr]

I couldn't even draw peaches ridge with 21 points! 12 points is just getting into the game man! Tell him good luck! 

[johnnyaustin44]

I couldn't even draw peaches ridge with 21 points! 12 points is just getting into the game man! Tell him good luck! 

Unfortunately the that’s the truth. Luck is more important than points, even with max odds are slim for most quality permits.

[bobcat]

With 12 points I would try for Toutle.

[fishngamereaper]

Ive been trying to "burn" my quality elk points for 15 years..  


Best way to use elk points strictly by the numbers is an archery tag.

[Opportunist]

Like bobcat said put in for Toutle, you can hunt the state ground up on Signal peak and some pacific power land on the south end of the unit without buying a permit.

[trophyhunt]

Pm coming

[BULLBLASTER]

Maybe just quit applying if you want to be done in wa? 

It’s just another chance to have a good bull hunt or a otc hunt to me.

[jackelope]

Maybe just quit applying if you want to be done in wa? 

It’s just another chance to have a good bull hunt or a otc hunt to me.

Agreed. It’s like $6 a year. If guys really don’t want to hunt here because they’re pissed off, just quit buying applications. It’s not a ton of $$ and folks who feel this way have really strong feelings about it. Just be done. It’s probably not worth the heartache.

[SteelheadTed]

Hunt the regular season if you just want a rag horn.

[blackveltbowhunter]

The only way to guarantee being done is stop applying. If he is moving and wants his best odds  it will depend on weapon type IMO.

[elkspert]

Thanks for everyone's feed back. Every reply is pretty much what I have told him. LOL.  Just thought I would ask around to see if I had missed something.

[M_ray]

I couldn't even draw peaches ridge with 21 points! 12 points is just getting into the game man! Tell him good luck! 

This is why I would support a change in the way Wa does the point system. We are past the sweet spot of drawing quality tags and now there are more poeple coming in to most draws then the one point squared you are going to receive so really your odds are going down every year now. It should be like Idaho were you get to pick one and that’s it. It would eliminate hundreds of applications and improve odds in each category. 

To answer your question? If he feels that strongly then just don’t put in!

[Karl Blanchard]

I couldn't even draw peaches ridge with 21 points! 12 points is just getting into the game man! Tell him good luck! 

This is why I would support a change in the way Wa does the point system. We are past the sweet spot of drawing quality tags and now there are more poeple coming in to most draws then the one point squared you are going to receive so really your odds are going down every year now. It should be like Idaho were you get to pick one and that’s it. It would eliminate hundreds of applications and improve odds in each category. 

To answer your question? If he feels that strongly then just don’t put in!

^^^^This. 

[buglebrush]

I couldn't even draw peaches ridge with 21 points! 12 points is just getting into the game man! Tell him good luck! 

This is why I would support a change in the way Wa does the point system. We are past the sweet spot of drawing quality tags and now there are more poeple coming in to most draws then the one point squared you are going to receive so really your odds are going down every year now. It should be like Idaho were you get to pick one and that’s it. It would eliminate hundreds of applications and improve odds in each category. 

To answer your question? If he feels that strongly then just don’t put in!

Couldn't agree more.  WDFW's draw system is an unabashed money grab.