Wolf supporters, you happy ?

[trophyhunt]

Of course Wolves drive ungulates down out of the high country, and exacerbate any auto problem. 

You're incapable of seeing/admitting the impact wolves are having.  When our future generations will no longer have OTC hunting seasons, the primary reason will be over-oredation due to poor Management.  The Tipping point being the introduction and over-protection of an invasive species: " the Canadian grey Wolf".  Bury your head in the sand all you want and blame cars as the #1 problem, but it doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong.  Listen to this podcast.  http://averyadventures.com/?powerpress_pinw=1370-podcast

sums it up!  But it’s amazing how the wolf fans just turn a blind eye! 

[Timberstalker]

I've never seen so much tin foil!!!!!!
 

[Oh Mah]

Of course Wolves drive ungulates down out of the high country, and exacerbate any auto problem. 

You're incapable of seeing/admitting the impact wolves are having.  When our future generations will no longer have OTC hunting seasons, the primary reason will be over-oredation due to poor Management.  The Tipping point being the introduction and over-protection of an invasive species: " the Canadian grey Wolf".  Bury your head in the sand all you want and blame cars as the #1 problem, but it doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong.  Listen to this podcast.  http://averyadventures.com/?powerpress_pinw=1370-podcast

please cite the proof of the introduction of these wolves please.and quit acting like some of us are for the wolves because were not.open a season on them i say.What you need to do is open your eyes to the battle that the wdfw has to fight all the time with the anti deer and elk pro wolf community,it is not as cut and dry as you would like it to be.A lot of other user groups out there. 

[Katmai Guy]

#1 auto huge problem

#2 coyotes big problem

#3 cougars big problem

#4 bears problem

#5 wolves problem

In this order.

One thing nobody brings up is Man, 80K+ hunters and what's the success rate?  Adds up to a lot of deer and elk also.  Sorry if this was stated earlier but I'm not reading 10pgs of complaining.

[Oh Mah]

 

[Jonathan_S]

Brainless

[Oh Mah]

I agree,anyone that thinks that wolfs are the biggest problem for ungulates is brainless. 

[Jonathan_S]

I agree,anyone that thinks that wolfs are the biggest problem for ungulates is brainless. 

If you’re up for a wintertime hike, I’d be happy to show you some interesting stuff. It would be an impactful experience for you even without the knowledge of what these areas were like 10-20 years ago. KFHunter could probably show you a dozen other areas too. Probably even some other people who live and play where WOLVES ARE.  We already had a marginal state for hunting and they added wolves to it.

I kill a deer every year in this state so I’m not making excuses. I’ve chased a P&Y whitetail for three years in wolf country. I’ve also watched the surrounding does and fawns go from 20+ to ~10 to 3. It’s a travesty to have bears, cougars and now wolves basically unchecked. Tipping point.

There are not multiple user groups of game by the way.

[benhuntin]

Definitely not helping Moose. But what do I know.


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[Oh Mah]

Lets see if we can put 1 thing out of this conversation.Did we introduce the wolves into WA. or not?


Jonathon i would expect you have several pics of diff. wolves on cam the way you talk,You mind showing us them?

[Jonathan_S]

I can’t keep up with your conversational pivots. I can however, keep up with the basic status of the ungulate herds in NE Washington where wolves go unchecked and herds get leaner and leaner. I assume you’ve been all over the NE too based on your seemingly intimate knowledge.

[Jonathan_S]

I don’t save a lot of pictures of anything. I’ve posted video and photos of wolves before and am not seeking your validation.

Offer stands to hike in or Xc ski into some wintering areas if you’re genuinely curious and not just running that mouth.

[Tbar]

I can’t keep up with your conversational pivots. I can however, keep up with the basic status of the ungulate herds in NE Washington where wolves go unchecked and herds get leaner and leaner. I assume you’ve been all over the NE too based on your seemingly intimate knowledge.

Oh Mah, do you live in the n.e.?

[Oh Mah]

I can’t keep up with your conversational pivots. I can however, keep up with the basic status of the ungulate herds in NE Washington where wolves go unchecked and herds get leaner and leaner. I assume you’ve been all over the NE too based on your seemingly intimate knowledge.

riddle me this all knowing one.If you are so sure that wolves are all we need to put in check to get our herds back then whats the problem in Yakima where we havent really nailed any wolf population at all.You make it sound as though we are only suffering these losses in the NE. give me a break.  get off the pity wagon.if you had wolf pics you would have kept them since you dont i have to think bull in this whole conversation.I have not changed my stance on wolves at all.Hunt them,If i though for an instant that they were that big of a problem i would feel as you do,problem is that that is not the case at all.


PROVE IT. 

[Oh Mah]

I don’t save a lot of pictures of anything. I’ve posted video and photos of wolves before and am not seeking your validation.

Offer stands to hike in or Xc ski into some wintering areas if you’re genuinely curious and not just running that mouth.

You are the one running your mouth with no facts.tracks in the snow are like bigfoot tracks and mean nothing.pics of lots of them or they are not the real problem