Wolf supporters, you happy ?

[Oh Mah]

I can’t keep up with your conversational pivots. I can however, keep up with the basic status of the ungulate herds in NE Washington where wolves go unchecked and herds get leaner and leaner. I assume you’ve been all over the NE too based on your seemingly intimate knowledge.

Oh Mah, do you live in the n.e.?

nope do you live in central WA.? because we are having same problem here with no wolves.

[Jonathan_S]

I don’t save a lot of pictures of anything. I’ve posted video and photos of wolves before and am not seeking your validation.

Offer stands to hike in or Xc ski into some wintering areas if you’re genuinely curious and not just running that mouth.

You are the one running your mouth with no facts.tracks in the snow are like bigfoot tracks and mean nothing.pics of lots of them or they are not the real problem

Predictably, you set some arbitrary standard for facts and relevancy.

Facts are that wolves are proving to be the tipping point on an already unbalanced ecosystem.

I’ll tell the elk and moose that those tracks have nothing to do with severely decreased calf recruitment

[Oh Mah]

no,tell them to come to central where there are no wolves and see if they fair any better than the ones we have left.

[Jonathan_S]

It goes like this:

More fawns and calves not living to reproduce. It doesn’t matter what causes that. You’ve expressed a deep understanding of statistical analysis with special permits etc so this is easy enough to comprehend.

Wolves add immensely to the problem through stress and direct killiing.

[Tbar]

I can’t keep up with your conversational pivots. I can however, keep up with the basic status of the ungulate herds in NE Washington where wolves go unchecked and herds get leaner and leaner. I assume you’ve been all over the NE too based on your seemingly intimate knowledge.

Oh Mah, do you live in the n.e.?

nope do you live in central WA.? because we are having same problem here with no wolves.

There are wolves in central Washington.

[Oh Mah]

Not here in central WA.    So what is our problem here?Maybe the fact that cougars bears coyotes and automobiles are in every area of this state and cougars are most abundant in the NE where you are having a problem that's the problem.

Its simple what is in the most areas causing problems and what is not.Wolves are not in every area of this state yet every area of this state has declined in the ungulates.

[Oh Mah]

I can’t keep up with your conversational pivots. I can however, keep up with the basic status of the ungulate herds in NE Washington where wolves go unchecked and herds get leaner and leaner. I assume you’ve been all over the NE too based on your seemingly intimate knowledge.

Oh Mah, do you live in the n.e.?

nope do you live in central WA.? because we are having same problem here with no wolves.

There are wolves in central Washington.

Where and how many?Proof or just tracks?

[Jonathan_S]

Have fun gentlemen.

This one is played out for me. No wolves in Central Wa either apparently so that’s good to hear

[Tbar]

Methow, Teanaway and the next packs to be confirmed will be in Naches and Rimrock. Those are not the only ones.

[Tbar]

Not here in central WA.    So what is our problem here?Maybe the fact that cougars bears coyotes and automobiles are in every area of this state and cougars are most abundant in the NE where you are having a problem that's the problem.

Its simple what is in the most areas causing problems and what is not.Wolves are not in every area of this state yet every area of this state has declined in the ungulates.

Yakima herd has been stable at or above objective until some politically motivated decisions and the boom/bust management actions.

[Oh Mah]

Not here in central WA.    So what is our problem here?Maybe the fact that cougars bears coyotes and automobiles are in every area of this state and cougars are most abundant in the NE where you are having a problem that's the problem.

Its simple what is in the most areas causing problems and what is not.Wolves are not in every area of this state yet every area of this state has declined in the ungulates.

Yakima herd has been stable at or above objective until some politically motivated decisions and the boom/bust management actions.

didnt the same people that did that here in Yakima do that all over the state?

Isn't the Methow in Okanogan?

[Oh Mah]

I see that the dept has confirmed a wolf pack in Cle Ellum.4 wolves.I guess they must be the reason for our drastic drop in ungulates here in Central WA. too.

[buglebrush]

Your Avatar certainly reflects your personality.  I'm done with you.  Enjoy your delusions.   

[Skyvalhunter]

Not here in central WA.    So what is our problem here?Maybe the fact that cougars bears coyotes and automobiles are in every area of this state and cougars are most abundant in the NE where you are having a problem that's the problem.

Its simple what is in the most areas causing problems and what is not.Wolves are not in every area of this state yet every area of this state has declined in the ungulates.

Yakima herd has been stable at or above objective until some politically motivated decisions and the boom/bust management actions.

There in lies the issue objective!! Way under sustainability

[Timberstalker]

Good to know the wolves aren’t impacting ungulates.
Here I thought the 3 packs in the blues were hurting deer and elk numbers all along.

Thanks for setting my worries at ease, Oh Mah.