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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2018, 08:16:09 AM »
Timing of the rut had to do with the Eastern WA deer statistics without a doubt....  But I would take the 18 inches of snow I was hunting in last year over the rut timing.
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2018, 08:49:11 AM »
How many people don’t fill out there harvest report wrong so that it shows no harvest? I bet there are more kills than is reported

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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2018, 09:22:29 AM »
And some guys fill them out for the wrong unit on purpose
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2018, 12:33:40 PM »
I was particularly interested in the mountain goat hunts this year. I see Goat Rocks permit holders went 5 for 5. That's great. What's depressing reading that report is folks drew permits and didn't hunt at all. 3 tag holders in the Naches Pass hunt area and -0- total days spent hunting. I can think of 3 guys that would have loved those permits. People need to know what they're getting into before they apply. (I believe one of those tagholders killed a billy in the wrong unit, so I'm going to guess he didn't fill out a report like normal) Multiple units where folks didn't hunt at all, or didn't report which also sucks with these hunts.

 
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2018, 12:42:05 PM »
I was particularly interested in the mountain goat hunts this year. I see Goat Rocks permit holders went 5 for 5. That's great. What's depressing reading that report is folks drew permits and didn't hunt at all. 3 tag holders in the Naches Pass hunt area and -0- total days spent hunting. I can think of 3 guys that would have loved those permits. People need to know what they're getting into before they apply. (I believe one of those tagholders killed a billy in the wrong unit, so I'm going to guess he didn't fill out a report like normal) Multiple units where folks didn't hunt at all, or didn't report which also sucks with these hunts.
That may have been caused in part by the fire in that area which restricted access. It could also be that some didn't report accurately.
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2018, 02:15:54 PM »
Didn't WDFW offer points back to tagholders who chose not to hunt?  May have been just elk.

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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2018, 02:45:45 PM »
Didn't WDFW offer points back to tagholders who chose not to hunt?  May have been just elk.
I suspect they were offered to all permit holders that may have been open during that time period. The Naches Pass goat permit season started September 15.

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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2018, 03:15:58 PM »
I was particularly interested in the mountain goat hunts this year. I see Goat Rocks permit holders went 5 for 5. That's great. What's depressing reading that report is folks drew permits and didn't hunt at all. 3 tag holders in the Naches Pass hunt area and -0- total days spent hunting. I can think of 3 guys that would have loved those permits. People need to know what they're getting into before they apply. (I believe one of those tagholders killed a billy in the wrong unit, so I'm going to guess he didn't fill out a report like normal) Multiple units where folks didn't hunt at all, or didn't report which also sucks with these hunts.

It's my understanding that all three were given the option to forfeit the opportunity and put in again next year with an additional point, or wait and use them this year. Uhmmm....:dunno:...DUH!...Easy choice!  :chuckle:

The odd/crappy part is they've apparently (so I've heard) added another opportunity to draw a Naches goat tag for a total of four goat hunters, without knowing how many goats actually made it through the winter.  Science-based management much?    :rolleyes:
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2018, 04:06:35 PM »
I was particularly interested in the mountain goat hunts this year. I see Goat Rocks permit holders went 5 for 5. That's great. What's depressing reading that report is folks drew permits and didn't hunt at all. 3 tag holders in the Naches Pass hunt area and -0- total days spent hunting. I can think of 3 guys that would have loved those permits. People need to know what they're getting into before they apply. (I believe one of those tagholders killed a billy in the wrong unit, so I'm going to guess he didn't fill out a report like normal) Multiple units where folks didn't hunt at all, or didn't report which also sucks with these hunts.

It's my understanding that all three were given the option to forfeit the opportunity and put in again next year with an additional point, or wait and use them this year. Uhmmm....:dunno:...DUH!...Easy choice!  :chuckle:

The odd/crappy part is they've apparently (so I've heard) added another opportunity to draw a Naches goat tag for a total of four goat hunters, without knowing how many goats actually made it through the winter.  Science-based management much?    :rolleyes:

Totally spaced out the fire. Thanks for reminding me. OK. I don't feel so bad anymore.
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2018, 04:36:52 PM »
I don’t know, these numbers seem really alarming to me! Meaning the  current overall harvest report numbers... dang!

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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2018, 05:21:15 PM »
Maybe this should be its own thread but I just looked up some numbers District 1 only 101-121 general elk harvests every 2 years since 97. These are just the harvest numbers and number of hunters for the district.
Year - Harvests - Hunters
97 - 79 - 1946
99 - 70 - 4978
01 - 52 - 3296
03 - 119 - 3106
05 - 127 - 2439
07 - 167 - 1789
09 - 224 - 4833
11 - 234 - 4530
13 - 229 - 4377
15 - 229 - 4245* Multiseason harvests included but not hunters
17 - 222 - 3532

Looking at just one barometer it looks like elk in the Northeast are stable especially over the last 10 years.
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2018, 06:21:25 PM »
Yeah, it's hard to draw concrete conclusions from a single year's report.  Trends are important.  I do think timing of the rut can be crucial to success though.  If the peak of the rut happens, say in the first two weeks of November, while the majority of the hunters are sitting on their thumbs waiting for the late season to open, numbers are going to be lower than if the peak begins on/around the 14th (or later) of that month.
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2018, 09:30:59 PM »
Maybe this should be its own thread but I just looked up some numbers District 1 only 101-121 general elk harvests every 2 years since 97. These are just the harvest numbers and number of hunters for the district.
Year - Harvests - Hunters
97 - 79 - 1946
99 - 70 - 4978
01 - 52 - 3296
03 - 119 - 3106
05 - 127 - 2439
07 - 167 - 1789
09 - 224 - 4833
11 - 234 - 4530
13 - 229 - 4377
15 - 229 - 4245* Multiseason harvests included but not hunters
17 - 222 - 3532

Looking at just one barometer it looks like elk in the Northeast are stable especially over the last 10 years.

Agree it should be it's own thread for elk since this thread is in the deer forums.  Super interesting for the elk perspective none the less.
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Re: Read 'em and weep - 2017 Game harvest reports are out.
« Reply #58 on: April 19, 2018, 07:55:21 PM »
agree, but didn't think I'd draw the unit as 2nd choice.
only because I know the Teanaway unit well, did well there in past regular rifle seasons. Thought late archery would see migrating bucks from the high country...not!


I was one of these 7 that reported, one of 5 that hunted....Zero success rate.
Perfect hunt weather. Cold, cloudy for first 4 days, then snowy days and dusting of fresh snow last 4 nights for quiet, cold conditions. In 10 successive days of Teanaway late archery buck, I saw only 2 bucks and maybe 5 does. Passed the 25 yard first day shot at the small 2 point. The other was a 4x4 at 600 yards away and on the move out of Dickey creek. Why? Wolves.
I spotted 2 wolves in a 3 day span, while hunting 3 miles on backtrails off the main roads. One black dark one, one grayish-white one. The 6" of fresh snow, their fresh tracks were right on Dickey creek and off a trail on Blue creek roads.


hunt #: 1085
Name: Teanaway
Unit: GMU 335
# applicants: 126
tags issued: 10
reports returned: 7
Number of hunters: 5
success rate: 0%
Antlered Harvest Total
1 Point : 0
2 Point : 0
3 Point : 0
4 Point : 0
5+ Point : 0
why do you think there were only 126 applicants? Not much of a quality hunt and hasn’t been for quite some time.
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