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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2018, 04:16:23 AM »
I'm curious to see this one play out. I don't see defense claim working. It might hurt the houndsmen doing the damage control

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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2018, 05:34:15 AM »
I remember this case. Is this piece of trash expecting some sympathy? He’ll already get of with to light a punishment. Lotta nerve on this a hole

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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2018, 05:57:49 AM »
Watch the video and then google his name.  This guy has a long history of poaching.  Still not sure what King5s angle is.

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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2018, 06:27:26 AM »
I say good,wdfw needs to give more spring permits to legal hunters,or open a baiting or hound season for everybody .With hound and baiting being illegal it should be for everybody ,there hound permits take away opportunity for us legal boot hunters and needs to stop .
Now that dill guy is a d-bag and cause wdfw does it ,does not mean you can poach.

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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2018, 06:39:12 AM »
On the west side anyway, boot hunts are woefully ineffective at success in general, let alone targeting the peeling bears.  These spring hunts are about targeting peeling bears that are causing thousands and thousands of dollars in damage each.

I'm all for expanded opportunity for boot hunters as well for sheer population control, but not as a replacement for depredation.

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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2018, 06:42:33 AM »
I say good,wdfw needs to give more spring permits to legal hunters,or open a baiting or hound season for everybody .With hound and baiting being illegal it should be for everybody ,there hound permits take away opportunity for us legal boot hunters and needs to stop .
Now that dill guy is a d-bag and cause wdfw does it ,does not mean you can poach.

No one's stopping us from legal bear hunting and the state's structured use of hounds to target problem animals isn't affecting our opportunity. There are plenty of bears everywhere in the state. This guy is trying to justify his horrendous poaching activities by comparing them with how the state responds to landowners having wildlife depredation and damage problems (which is a major part of their job). And, unless I'm mistaken, they use private houndsmen to do the work. Maybe if this jackhole had contacted the state to be a contractor instead of choosing to be a poacher, this lawsuit would never have been initiated. Am I missing something here?
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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2018, 06:55:17 AM »
I say good,wdfw needs to give more spring permits to legal hunters,or open a baiting or hound season for everybody .With hound and baiting being illegal it should be for everybody ,there hound permits take away opportunity for us legal boot hunters and needs to stop .
Now that dill guy is a d-bag and cause wdfw does it ,does not mean you can poach.

No one's stopping us from legal bear hunting and the state's structured use of hounds to target problem animals isn't affecting our opportunity. There are plenty of bears everywhere in the state. This guy is trying to justify his horrendous poaching activities by comparing them with how the state responds to landowners having wildlife depredation and damage problems (which is a major part of their job). And, unless I'm mistaken, they use private houndsmen to do the work. Maybe if this jackhole had contacted the state to be a contractor instead of choosing to be a poacher, this lawsuit would never have been initiated. Am I missing something here?

Every bear killed with hounds is lost opportunity for more spring bear permits.
Every cougar killed with hounds is lost opportunity for cougar quota. :twocents:

I do see it as lost opportunity in the amount of permits given to legal Hunters and season length.


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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2018, 07:29:00 AM »
I say good,wdfw needs to give more spring permits to legal hunters,or open a baiting or hound season for everybody .With hound and baiting being illegal it should be for everybody ,there hound permits take away opportunity for us legal boot hunters and needs to stop .
Now that dill guy is a d-bag and cause wdfw does it ,does not mean you can poach.

No one's stopping us from legal bear hunting and the state's structured use of hounds to target problem animals isn't affecting our opportunity. There are plenty of bears everywhere in the state. This guy is trying to justify his horrendous poaching activities by comparing them with how the state responds to landowners having wildlife depredation and damage problems (which is a major part of their job). And, unless I'm mistaken, they use private houndsmen to do the work. Maybe if this jackhole had contacted the state to be a contractor instead of choosing to be a poacher, this lawsuit would never have been initiated. Am I missing something here?

Pretty sure he was active in the removal for timber companies and got booted for unethical behavior or getting caught poaching. 

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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2018, 07:35:10 AM »
I say good,wdfw needs to give more spring permits to legal hunters,or open a baiting or hound season for everybody .With hound and baiting being illegal it should be for everybody ,there hound permits take away opportunity for us legal boot hunters and needs to stop .
Now that dill guy is a d-bag and cause wdfw does it ,does not mean you can poach.

No one's stopping us from legal bear hunting and the state's structured use of hounds to target problem animals isn't affecting our opportunity. There are plenty of bears everywhere in the state. This guy is trying to justify his horrendous poaching activities by comparing them with how the state responds to landowners having wildlife depredation and damage problems (which is a major part of their job). And, unless I'm mistaken, they use private houndsmen to do the work. Maybe if this jackhole had contacted the state to be a contractor instead of choosing to be a poacher, this lawsuit would never have been initiated. Am I missing something here?

Every bear killed with hounds is lost opportunity for more spring bear permits.
Every cougar killed with hounds is lost opportunity for cougar quota. :twocents:

I do see it as lost opportunity in the amount of permits given to legal Hunters and season length.

How is it lost opportunity? There remain plenty of both to hunt.  :dunno:
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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2018, 07:55:56 AM »
I say good,wdfw needs to give more spring permits to legal hunters,or open a baiting or hound season for everybody .With hound and baiting being illegal it should be for everybody ,there hound permits take away opportunity for us legal boot hunters and needs to stop .
Now that dill guy is a d-bag and cause wdfw does it ,does not mean you can poach.

No one's stopping us from legal bear hunting and the state's structured use of hounds to target problem animals isn't affecting our opportunity. There are plenty of bears everywhere in the state. This guy is trying to justify his horrendous poaching activities by comparing them with how the state responds to landowners having wildlife depredation and damage problems (which is a major part of their job). And, unless I'm mistaken, they use private houndsmen to do the work. Maybe if this jackhole had contacted the state to be a contractor instead of choosing to be a poacher, this lawsuit would never have been initiated. Am I missing something here?

Every bear killed with hounds is lost opportunity for more spring bear permits.
Every cougar killed with hounds is lost opportunity for cougar quota. :twocents:

I do see it as lost opportunity in the amount of permits given to legal Hunters and season length.

How is it lost opportunity? There remain plenty of both to hunt.  :dunno:
I will give example
A GMU has 20 spring bear permits
Same GMU has 20 hound bear permits
I would rather see wdfw give 50-60 spring permits for that GMU and cut the hound permits.
Hound hunting is illegal and should be for everybody.If it is that important to use hounds than wdfw should look at changing the law so we can all use them.

Every time you take away my chance to go hunting,less permits,shorter season, is lost opportunity.Regardless of the population of said Bears.

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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2018, 07:57:14 AM »
When it comes to deer and elk management, every predator that is killed is a good thing, especially in this state.
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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2018, 08:07:59 AM »
When it comes to deer and elk management, every predator that is killed is a good thing, especially in this state.
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I agree I think we all know this state is a predator pit,us as hunters are tools to be use a management tool.


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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2018, 08:09:06 AM »
Very entitled.  Different rules have always applied to different user groups for different reasons.  Management of problem animals is viewed as a seperate thing than sport.  By his arguement just because WDFW uses rotenone to clear lakes, allows bow fishing of carp and has zero limits for catfish and pikeminnow on the Columbia, other groups should be able to use similar methods around the state at their own choice.

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Re: Accused bear poacher breaks silence, points finger at WDFW
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2018, 08:11:34 AM »
This is a good example of opportunity.
How about all spring permits for bear , you are allowed to use hounds or bait .
Now something like that I can support give us equal opportunity.

 


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