State says wolf recovery plan working

[eastsidemallard74]

Working in what sense i wonder, depleting harvests? Collecting money for un fillable tags? Wa St. gov in a whole is such a joke..........

[bearpaw]

Wiping out the moose herd just like they did in every other state! 

[Mudman]

Its been made clear the only way management of wolves will occur is hunting trapping and all other means.  Its a choice every man/woman makes on their own.  Trust the Lawmakers or trust your family friends neighbors and every other person with a brain.  Sad it comes to that.  Years ago this was the livelihood of most all people in USA and ir was handled.  When the Caribou, moose, elk, deer # crashed what will they blame it on?? Us....

[NRA4LIFE]

C'mon guys and gals, WDFW says there are only 122 wolves in the state.  We need to trust them with the well being of all of our wildlife.

[bearpaw]

C'mon guys and gals, WDFW says there are only 122 wolves in the state.  We need to trust them with the well being of all of our wildlife.

WDFW PLEASE WAKE UP & ACT LIKE A RESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT AGENCY!

I'd be willing to bet you can multiply the WDFW wolf count by 2 or 3, at least. But just for fun lets do the wolf math using federal government wolf data and the WDFW wolf count. The figures come from YNP where the primary diet is elk (22 per year).

122 wolves X 22 ungulates = 2684 ungulates (on a primarily elk diet)
Wait till we have 500 to 1000 wolves!



https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/gray-wolves-impact-elk

- Kill rates by wolves in winter are 22 ungulates per wolf per year – higher than the 12 ungulates per wolf rate predicted in the ESA.

 - Since 2000, wolves have caused 45 percent of known deaths and 75 percent of predation deaths (not including human harvests) of radio-collared female elk on the northern range. By comparison, human harvest and winter-kill accounted for 30 percent and 8 percent respectively of the known deaths.

 - The average annual harvest of 1,372 elk during the Gardiner late elk hunts from 1995 to 2004 was higher than the long-term average of 1,014 elk during 1976-1994. Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks has reduced antlerless permits by 51 percent from 2,882 to 1,400 during 2000-2004 and recently proposed 100 permits for 2006 – a 96 percent decrease from the 2,660 permits issued in 1995.

Oh goody, guess what's in store for Washington hunters?  (see underlined text above)

[CAMPMEAT]

 



Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

[Bango skank]

Its working alright.  Wolves all over, at least in the northeast corner.

[nwwanderer]

Thanks Bango, perfect example.  Running the numbers puts the department in a death spiral, WDFW must realize they are bleeding badly and they are only half way to a 'goal'.  What does a $100 million department look like with 400 employees?

[bearpaw]

Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

You were right! 

[bearpaw]

Its working alright.  Wolves all over, at least in the northeast corner.

That's just a big black tick after that moose! 

[wolfbait]

Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

You were right! 

We tried to tell y'all,...Not that anything said on this forum about wolves etc. promotes any form of caring for the ungulates from WDF&Wolves, as they are in their own agenda driven bubble.


In Washington, Some Mourn The Arrival Of New Fish and Game Director

http://tomremington.com/?s=Director+Unsworth



FWS Biologist Says Wolf Numbers Underestimated Mech Says 3,000 Wolves Exist in ID, MT & WY


http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No.28%20May%202008%20FWS%20Biologist%20Says%20Wolf%20Numbers%20Underestimated%20Mech%20Says%203,000%20Wolves%20Exist%20in%20ID,%20MT%20&%20WY.pdf



What They Didn’t Tell You About Wolf Recovery

http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%2026%20January%202008%20full%20report.pdf

[wolfbait]

I'm shocked how many huntwa members are okay with the number of wolves we have now, and dumbfounded how they can be okay with being halfway there and looking forward to twice as many as the current situation.....SMH.

Why don't you set up on of those poll thingy's so we can see how many people think where we are with wolves and the wolf plan is ok?


Remember according to WDFW wolves started "migrating" to WA in 2002.


FWS Biologist Says Wolf Numbers Underestimated Mech Says 3,000 Wolves Exist in ID, MT & WY


http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No.28%20May%202008%20FWS%20Biologist%20Says%20Wolf%20Numbers%20Underestimated%20Mech%20Says%203,000%20Wolves%20Exist%20in%20ID,%20MT%20&%20WY.pdf

Little pasted shocked?

[bearpaw]

Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

You were right! 

Was he was even worse than you figured?

[nwwanderer]

Time to include WA in those numbers.  That was 2008, what is the number today?

[CAMPMEAT]

Didn't I tell you Unsworthlessness was pro-wolf.

You were right! 

Was he was even worse than you figured?

Yes, yes, yes !!!