is it worth getting into the points game?

[idaho guy]

This year will be a change in Colorado. Lots of newcomers to he point game there so tags may not be as easy to get moving forward. 

Is the change just a ton of new hunters applying this year?   

[whacker1]

This year will be a change in Colorado. Lots of newcomers to he point game there so tags may not be as easy to get moving forward. 

Is the change just a ton of new hunters applying this year?

one used to have to prefund the tags and they would return the tag costs if you did not draw.  This year they moved to a license and application cost, and no longer required to pre-fund the tag.  post draw purchase of the tag, so easier to acquire points and apply if you don't have as much cash outlay state by state.

[BULLBLASTER]

This year will be a change in Colorado. Lots of newcomers to he point game there so tags may not be as easy to get moving forward. 

Is the change just a ton of new hunters applying this year?

one used to have to prefund the tags and they would return the tag costs if you did not draw.  This year they moved to a license and application cost, and no longer required to pre-fund the tag.  post draw purchase of the tag, so easier to acquire points and apply if you don't have as much cash outlay state by state.

Having to front the tag fee to apply or accrue a point kept numbers down.

Im guessing there will be some upset people after the draw that don’t realize they will still hit you with a $40 per species point fee unless you held a license last year.

Now there are tons of people who are applying because it’s cheap and doesn’t tie up a bunch of cash.  Heck I bought an elk point that I would have not bought if I had to front the $600.

[idaho guy]

This year will be a change in Colorado. Lots of newcomers to he point game there so tags may not be as easy to get moving forward. 

Is the change just a ton of new hunters applying this year?

one used to have to prefund the tags and they would return the tag costs if you did not draw.  This year they moved to a license and application cost, and no longer required to pre-fund the tag.  post draw purchase of the tag, so easier to acquire points and apply if you don't have as much cash outlay state by state.

Having to front the tag fee to apply or accrue a point kept numbers down.

Im guessing there will be some upset people after the draw that don’t realize they will still hit you with a $40 per species point fee unless you held a license last year.

Now there are tons of people who are applying because it’s cheap and doesn’t tie up a bunch of cash.  Heck I bought an elk point that I would have not bought if I had to front the $600.

10-4 thanks! Lots to learn feel like I’m back in school ha ha

[Stein]

If you look at other states, having to front the cash doesn't seem to move the number of applicants.  Most people swipe the plastic at the last couple days and then either figure out how to pay or get a credit back on the card.

I'm amazed that anything having to do with cost doesn't really move the needle.  Some states have passed huge NR fee increases and the number of applicants doesn't seem to budge much.  If it does, it is only very temporary.

[BULLBLASTER]

If you look at other states, having to front the cash doesn't seem to move the number of applicants.  Most people swipe the plastic at the last couple days and then either figure out how to pay or get a credit back on the card.

I'm amazed that anything having to do with cost doesn't really move the needle.  Some states have passed huge NR fee increases and the number of applicants doesn't seem to budge much.  If it does, it is only very temporary.

Colorado oil apps were up 300-500% this year...
that’s a pretty drastic increase.
Also I have read that nonresident deer apps are up 100% it more over last year.
Both of these are huge and directly related to not having to front the fees. 

[meatwhack]

What people don’t realize is the majority of the increase is people just putting in for points and not actually applying for a tag. Basically the same that happens with Wyoming since you can just buy points.

[BULLBLASTER]

Eventually those point buyers will want to draw tags though.

I bought an elk point this year, because of that and it was cheap to do so I will eventually apply for an elk tag. If I had to loan them $600 each year I wouldn’t have bothered. 

[idaho guy]

Eventually those point buyers will want to draw tags though.

I bought an elk point this year, because of that and it was cheap to do so I will eventually apply for an elk tag. If I had to loan them $600 each year I wouldn’t have bothered. 

How many points are you shootin for before you would apply? How many do you think you would need to have a realistic chance of drawing a good tag

[BULLBLASTER]

Eventually those point buyers will want to draw tags though.

I bought an elk point this year, because of that and it was cheap to do so I will eventually apply for an elk tag. If I had to loan them $600 each year I wouldn’t have bothered. 

I don’t have any plan and haven’t even looked into it at all. Mostly just bought the point because it was cheap. I would guess in the 4-7 point range I’ll probably look to get a tag.

How many points are you shootin for before you would apply? How many do you think you would need to have a realistic chance of drawing a good tag

[meatwhack]

The fee for Colorado elk was never $600 to build points back when you had to front the money.

[BULLBLASTER]

The fee for Colorado elk was never $600 to build points back when you had to front the money.

You did have to pay the entire tag fee to them and they would refund most of it after the draw. When I was building deer points I was out $400 for 2 months from the application deadline until after the draw. Unless I was missing something elk was the same way?

[meatwhack]

Elk you had to front the money but if you were doing points only you only had to front the money for a cow tag. I think it was around $400 can’t remember exact amount. The part I dislike about any of the increased fees is none of the money is helping F&G it’s just paying the credit card companies.

[BULLBLASTER]

Elk you had to front the money but if you were doing points only you only had to front the money for a cow tag. I think it was around $400 can’t remember exact amount. The part I dislike about any of the increased fees is none of the money is helping F&G it’s just paying the credit card companies.

I didn’t know that.  Thanks for prividing helpful info instead of just telling me I’m wrong. 

[Bigshooter]

You watch CO will be charging $100 for a point at some point in time.