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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2018, 11:41:08 AM »
I’ve found that, for me, anything Vortex over the Diamondbacks lags behind other comparable glass. The Vipers weren’t worth the money, nor were the Razors when I was bino shopping awhile back.

Yeah everyone strokes on their warranty, but honestly who is out there beating the piss out of their binoculars to the level that you’d actually need to worry about the warranty? I get it, we’re in the woods hunting, it’s rough in general, but are you going to be regularly throwing your binos off a cliff? I feel like once you get into $200+ you should be taking care of them. Another thing - let’s face it, if they break 2 Days into a 7 day trip you’re boned anyhow regardless of warranty.

Most optic companies offer a decent warranty these days. I’d rather have to spend a little if I’m a careless idiot with my binoculars and have GREAT glass, than settle for subpar glass just so I can have a warranty that covers my carelessness.

You are obviously underestimating my clumsiness. 
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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2018, 12:21:07 PM »
Optics planet has a good price on the bx4. Optic agent has a better price but have been out of stock (I looking for myself as well)
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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2018, 03:28:26 PM »
I’ve found that, for me, anything Vortex over the Diamondbacks lags behind other comparable glass. The Vipers weren’t worth the money, nor were the Razors when I was bino shopping awhile back.

Yeah everyone strokes on their warranty, but honestly who is out there beating the piss out of their binoculars to the level that you’d actually need to worry about the warranty? I get it, we’re in the woods hunting, it’s rough in general, but are you going to be regularly throwing your binos off a cliff? I feel like once you get into $200+ you should be taking care of them. Another thing - let’s face it, if they break 2 Days into a 7 day trip you’re boned anyhow regardless of warranty.

Most optic companies offer a decent warranty these days. I’d rather have to spend a little if I’m a careless idiot with my binoculars and have GREAT glass, than settle for subpar glass just so I can have a warranty that covers my carelessness.

You are obviously underestimating my clumsiness.

Maybe I am, but maybe you’re overcompensating for your clumsiness.  ;)

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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2018, 03:43:05 PM »
I went in to Cabelas last night and got to look at the Vipers, the new 2018 Vipers, and the BX-4. 

Surprisingly, I found the BX-4s to be substantially better.  I think it had a lot more to do with the shape of my face and hands than the quality of the product per se, but they felt a lot more natural.  There was also truer color in the BX-4 than the old/existing Viper and a little less color fringing.  The new Vipers and the BX-4 seems about equal optically. 

So I guess I'm in the market for a pair of BX-4s now!

Leupold vs Vortex is a no brainer in my books.  Vortex aren't even in the same class.  I know a lot of people will argue this, but in my humble opinion vortex is a lesser product. 

leupold all the way.....unless you want to shell out the money for swaro, leica, etc. 

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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2018, 10:20:52 PM »
Check out Cameraland NY online for deals on optics. Give them a call. You’d be hard pressed to find better customer service and some smoking deals now and then.
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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2018, 07:39:01 AM »
I’ve found that, for me, anything Vortex over the Diamondbacks lags behind other comparable glass. The Vipers weren’t worth the money, nor were the Razors when I was bino shopping awhile back.

Yeah everyone strokes on their warranty, but honestly who is out there beating the piss out of their binoculars to the level that you’d actually need to worry about the warranty? I get it, we’re in the woods hunting, it’s rough in general, but are you going to be regularly throwing your binos off a cliff? I feel like once you get into $200+ you should be taking care of them. Another thing - let’s face it, if they break 2 Days into a 7 day trip you’re boned anyhow regardless of warranty.

Most optic companies offer a decent warranty these days. I’d rather have to spend a little if I’m a careless idiot with my binoculars and have GREAT glass, than settle for subpar glass just so I can have a warranty that covers my carelessness.
  it's not the risk of damage from being clumsy, it's the rate of failure with vortex optics.  Focus wheels, hinges, eye cups, etc.  I like the optic that doesn't need a good warranty.  Like was said, most all have solid warranties these days, you just hear about vortex because everyone has to actually use the warranty 🤣

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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2018, 07:46:25 AM »
I got my new vx3i from opticsplanet for 50$ less than I could find it anywhere else on the web.

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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2018, 11:43:24 AM »
I have the Vortex HD 10X42, bought then two years ago and for the price they are awesome!  I have 4 vortex products and not one issue with any of them!!!

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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2018, 12:33:03 PM »
Just an FYI, Optics planet has a 12% off coupon for Binos right now. Just ordered some 8x42 bx4s for $439!
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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2018, 10:11:40 PM »
I unfortunately sent my zen ray ed3s in around a year ago for some warranty work and will look kept never see them again. The communication stopped around 6 months ago and they seem to have gone under. I kept my eyes open for a used ‘made in Japan’ viper binocular and made a purchase a couple months ago. The change to Chinese manufacture made me leery.
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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2018, 07:05:22 AM »
Check out Cameraland NY online for deals on optics. Give them a call. You’d be hard pressed to find better customer service and some smoking deals now and then.
+1 on Cameraland. I got my Leopold 10x42s there for about 200 less than retail. Also bought a scope through them. Good deals just need to hit the deals right. Sign up for their emails so you know when there is a deal.

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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2018, 03:11:45 PM »
I hadn't heard of Zen-Ray.  Any knowledge of their warranty?  Also, I can't even find a website for them...  They seem to be selling on adorama.com though, so I guess they're still in business?

????

Same warranty as Vortex - lifetime for any reason.
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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2018, 03:19:56 PM »
70% off https://n.stuccu.com/s/Zen+Ray+Binoculars?drsm=5b00a1c4eba0c90c8816b19a

Looks like they went out of business, so there goes the warranty!
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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2018, 03:21:26 PM »
Uhhh.. I guess cancel what I said about Zen Rays.  Looks like they are going (or have gone) out of business (from what I can tell on the internets... :dunno: ).  Too bad.  I really like mine and they were great with the warranty when I dropped a pair and dented the eyecup.  I guess that warranty no longer exists... I'll have to be careful with mine.
If you buy a pair you should get them at a bargain basement price considering there is no one to fix or replace them anymore.

Pretty strange. I could find very little online about the company.
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Re: Alternatives to the Vortex Viper HD 10x42
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2018, 04:41:45 PM »
70% off https://n.stuccu.com/s/Zen+Ray+Binoculars?drsm=5b00a1c4eba0c90c8816b19a

Looks like they went out of business, so there goes the warranty!

Funny... as I am writing this, I am staring at a banner at the top of this page advertising Zen Ray Vistas, EDs and HDs... :dunno:
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