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Offline fireweed

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2018, 09:15:57 AM »
My big piece of advice for access issues is NEVER believe what you are TOLD by anyone--government, private etc.  Dig up the documents or easements yourself. 

I ran into something similar on a WDFW river access where the landowner deed said he owned to the middle of the river, even though the river had moved squarely onto WDFW land.  He was essentially stealing 5 acres of public land.  Called WDFW local biologist, who forwarded it to LEO who made a personal visit to the "landowner".  Lots of landowners don't know rules about water, navigability, and public ownership.  To solve problem you may have to have WDFW go to bat for their access site.  Carry the plat map with you.

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2018, 09:19:44 AM »
They may pay to stock the lake but they are just paying for the service of the stocking. Once the fish are in state waters, they are the state's fish. they may own the land the lake is on, but they do not own the water.

For example, as long as the lake has a high-water mark,you could pay for a helicopter to drop you off in the middle of a private lake in a float tube (as long as it has a season) and legally fish as long as you don't touch land above the high water mark.

Since WDFW has a public launch, you are more than able to fish it legally and can retain any fish that are currently open in season.

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2018, 09:26:18 AM »
Hello, All.

As Baker5150 noted earlier in this thread, "Anyway, point is, we can't let people steal our access or claim it as theirs when it's not."

Of course, that goes for our federal land, too. We have to resist the Bundys, the Kochs, and the other land-grabbers from taking what ALL Americans have been supporting for a LONG time. Federal land belongs to ALL Americans. Hunters and anglers need to keep the pressure on and not let private interests and states grab what is not rightfully theirs.

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2018, 09:34:04 AM »
Attached is a copy of the recorded survey with the legal description for the WDFW access.  Note the survey was prepared for Lake Conner Park.

 Also, is an aerial map showing the location of this particular parcel?

I drive by this spot on a daily basis; people dump trash and other items fairly regularly there.  A boat was dumped at this site last spring and it took six months before the local scavengers picked it clean and it was finally removed.  I doubt Lake Conner Park removed the boat.

Has anyone heard of a Hogcraw?  Rumor is one or two but not more than three might reside in this lake.

Glad to see people using this access.
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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2018, 09:36:47 AM »
PM me and I will email a PDF copy of the survey if anyone wants it.
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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2018, 09:41:26 AM »
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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2018, 10:10:07 AM »
Attached is a copy of the recorded survey with the legal description for the WDFW access.  Note the survey was prepared for Lake Conner Park.

 Also, is an aerial map showing the location of this particular parcel?

I drive by this spot on a daily basis; people dump trash and other items fairly regularly there.  A boat was dumped at this site last spring and it took six months before the local scavengers picked it clean and it was finally removed.  I doubt Lake Conner Park removed the boat.

Has anyone heard of a Hogcraw?  Rumor is one or two but not more than three might reside in this lake.

Glad to see people using this access.

Actually untangled a hogcraw a few days ago that was wrapped up in a bunch of discarded fishing line. It was certainly in contention for the largest Id ever seen but growing up playing in central illinois creeks will find you the occasional lobster.

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2018, 10:23:33 AM »
Perhaps an access work party is in order? Bunch of guys with weed wackers to clear the path and help out the parking? Maybe install a  access sign?

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2018, 10:32:26 AM »
Perhaps an access work party is in order? Bunch of guys with weed wackers to clear the path and help out the parking? Maybe install a  access sign?

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WDFW actually has an adopt an access program I was contemplating signing up for. Its a pretty small area that might take a few hours to weed wack. Would really open it up and make launching all manner of small vessels easier.

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2018, 10:42:53 AM »
  When I have been there numerous times adults are fishing and they say they don't have a license and don't need one.  I have actually asked and everyone there claims that they were informed from the office that adults don't need a license. When I asked at the office last year the office actually said they own the lake and that a license is not needed........ Maybe it would be worthy to have a LEO out once in a while to make sure all people who are of age should have a fish license.

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2018, 10:57:52 AM »
So far im not seeing any fish pics?  :dunno: :dunno:

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2018, 11:00:00 AM »
Also,  i see the kids derby is on the 26th. Good on them for putting it on. After that trout are fair game!

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2018, 11:24:12 AM »
So far im not seeing any fish pics?  :dunno: :dunno:

This is one of about 6 similarly sized bass ive caught outa there. Matter of time before I hook into something more substantial.

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2018, 11:30:44 AM »
Nice. I'm jelly.

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Re: Water access drama
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2018, 11:32:47 AM »
You should keep a few bass if allowed. Help the population out. Ill beer batter those babies up!

 


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