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Re: Cougar Attack Highlights Shortage of WDFW Officers
« Reply #121 on: June 01, 2018, 08:19:40 PM »
It would be nice for WDFW apologists to explain the process to get WDFW to "provide information to you/groups as a PDR and then you as a citizen/as a group can disseminate that info."

To date, there is an appearance that WDFW is predominantly cozy with non or anti hunting interests.  Don't like it?  It is up to WDFW to change that perception in their formerly paying customers.
I can assure you the Game Division employees are not cozy with non or anti hunting interests.  I interviewed with them in 1999 for a bear/cougar/furbearer position, they were intensely interested in how to communicate to the general public the impacts of the initiative (it was the "hypothetical" scenario) without running afoul of the state law.  I asked a lot of questions, and my final response was "you're screwed".  They agreed.

It may be hard to believe but the technical game management people in WDFW as as good as, and as pro hunting as, their counterparts in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho and Colorado.  Where they differ is smaller game populations, more demand, and worst of all, they work for Washington State Government.  The problems originate with the Governor and Legislature, trickle down to the Director (of all agencies), and is a toxin that infiltrates all of the policy and management levels.  The technical people can't take a stand because their chain of command doesn't have their backs.  That is the primary difference I found between working for WDFW and Wyoming Game and Fish





People are AFRAID to stand up to their bosses. In the government, you're most likely not going to suffer any consequences, maybe a letter in the square file and that's it. One thing I whole heartedly disagree with is, ANY government agencies should not be allowed to be unionized, period. Federal, State or County.
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Re: Cougar Attack Highlights Shortage of WDFW Officers
« Reply #122 on: June 01, 2018, 09:30:36 PM »
It would be nice for WDFW apologists to explain the process to get WDFW to "provide information to you/groups as a PDR and then you as a citizen/as a group can disseminate that info."

To date, there is an appearance that WDFW is predominantly cozy with non or anti hunting interests.  Don't like it?  It is up to WDFW to change that perception in their formerly paying customers.
I can assure you the Game Division employees are not cozy with non or anti hunting interests.  I interviewed with them in 1999 for a bear/cougar/furbearer position, they were intensely interested in how to communicate to the general public the impacts of the initiative (it was the "hypothetical" scenario) without running afoul of the state law.  I asked a lot of questions, and my final response was "you're screwed".  They agreed.

It may be hard to believe but the technical game management people in WDFW as as good as, and as pro hunting as, their counterparts in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho and Colorado.  Where they differ is smaller game populations, more demand, and worst of all, they work for Washington State Government.  The problems originate with the Governor and Legislature, trickle down to the Director (of all agencies), and is a toxin that infiltrates all of the policy and management levels.  The technical people can't take a stand because their chain of command doesn't have their backs.  That is the primary difference I found between working for WDFW and Wyoming Game and Fish





People are AFRAID to stand up to their bosses. In the government, you're most likely not going to suffer any consequences, maybe a letter in the square file and that's it. One thing I whole heartedly disagree with is, ANY government agencies should not be allowed to be unionized, period. Federal, State or County.

I appreciate that dilemma.  When the only "side" that gets taken is either silence or need more money, that's a pretty tough row to hoe.  I don't fault the pro technical people. 

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Re: Cougar Attack Highlights Shortage of WDFW Officers
« Reply #123 on: June 01, 2018, 09:58:52 PM »
.....and soon Grizz are coming to WA through the relocation program,  we're getting Montana's problem bears.


Pretty sure the USFWS and WDF&wolves have already planted the big bears in WA, what they mostly want is everything on paper, so they can shut down large areas of public lands for G.bear recovery.

Some years back wasn't there a collared grizzly bear down around Wenatchee that people were watching?


Looking at WDF&wolves, their wolf plan and their inactions in confirming livestock predation or confirming BPs, wolf packs, there really isn't enough makeup you could slap on WDFW to make them look pretty.

Once WDFW started partnering up with the likes of DoW, CNW, and changed from Fish and Game to department of Wildlife etc., everything started heading south, bear and cougar hunting via hounds went, then the wolves "migrated" in and look at us today. WDF&wolves are predicting when they will delist the wolves.

Just like the illegal wolf introduction into ID, MT, and Wyoming, WDFW are showing their true colors, they are just as corrupt as the USFWS was.  How do we hold WDFW accountable?

 


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