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Should cougar meat be considered edible and wastage laws appy to cougar?

Yes
67 (51.5%)
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Voting closed: June 24, 2018, 10:59:56 PM

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2018, 08:17:48 PM »
I was raised on "if you hunt it you eat it". Voted yes on that alone.No we don't need any new rules but if it will help shut down an argument from the antis by just making a rule on how i feel any way.WIN WIN.
Then remember let's eat every coyote shot,all animals that are trapped and dispatched should be eaten including racoon that can carry rabbies.
I was also taught not to shoot animals you don't intend to eat , But on the other side there is a management stand point that some animals will do better without predators on there heels or killing fawns.

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2018, 08:23:03 PM »
Who's arguing that?Coyote?Raccoon?These animals are know to eat rotted meat.Cougars are not.No one brought up bears.Most eat the bear meat but a lot of people don't.Sure the antis will bring that up sometime as well but for now we are talking cougars.
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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2018, 08:31:10 PM »
Who's arguing that?Coyote?Raccoon?These animals are know to eat rotted meat.Cougars are not.No one brought up bears.Most eat the bear meat but a lot of people don't.Sure the antis will bring that up sometime as well but for now we are talking cougars.
I will stick to cougar and stay on topic,no new laws , when you go down that rabbit hole,you end up with lots of new laws,sorry can't support it.
And I have never shot a cougar , so never ate one.but have ate every bear I have shot.

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2018, 08:35:41 PM »
I was raised on "if you hunt it you eat it". Voted yes on that alone.No we don't need any new rules but if it will help shut down an argument from the antis by just making a rule on how i feel any way.WIN WIN.
Then remember let's eat every coyote shot,all animals that are trapped and dispatched should be eaten including racoon that can carry rabbies.
I was also taught not to shoot animals you don't intend to eat , But on the other side there is a management stand point that some animals will do better without predators on there heels or killing fawns.
I agree.Like i said we don't need new laws.What do you suggest we do to keep our sport alive?The anti's use these argument's(hunting for fur'wasting the meat"all the time.
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(this is in reference to the biggie not me).

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2018, 03:26:55 AM »
I was raised on "if you hunt it you eat it". Voted yes on that alone.No we don't need any new rules but if it will help shut down an argument from the antis by just making a rule on how i feel any way.WIN WIN.
Then remember let's eat every coyote shot,all animals that are trapped and dispatched should be eaten including racoon that can carry rabbies.
I was also taught not to shoot animals you don't intend to eat , But on the other side there is a management stand point that some animals will do better without predators on there heels or killing fawns.
I agree.Like i said we don't need new laws.What do you suggest we do to keep our sport alive?The anti's use these argument's(hunting for fur'wasting the meat"all the time.
The whole "appease the anti's" argument is hogwash.  The anti's will always rail against and do their best to shut down hunting.  It doesn't matter what we do.  We need more reasons and opportunities to kill predators not less.  I suppose you'd favor a law forcing people to eat skunks, rodents, etc...  Cats need killed purely from a Management standpoint regardless of whether or not the meat is consumed.    :bash:

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2018, 03:32:59 AM »
There are a few things that I will not. Eat, dogs and cats are two of them.
But I shoot coyote at the farm when ever they present themselves.  I've never had the chance to see a bobcat or cougar and be set up for a shot. I doubt if I ever will be in a position to shoot a cat. I would love a full body mount of a cat, but I can't for see it happening.
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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2018, 06:34:59 AM »
Cougar is one of the best tasting wild game meats you can eat! I gave most of the meat to my taxidermist when I got mine. I took the back straps and after eating them I wish I wouldn’t have given the rest away.
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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2018, 07:14:24 AM »
I have yet to try cougar but i have heard its excellent. I don't think a new law is required. There is bear deer and elk that get left out in the woods every year even with laws.

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2018, 08:34:13 AM »
(66) "To waste" or "to be wasted" means to allow any edible portion of any game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar to be rendered unfit for human consumption, or to fail to retrieve edible portions of such a game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar from the field. For purposes of this chapter, edible portions of game birds must include, at a minimum, the breast meat of those birds. Entrails, including the heart and liver, of any wildlife species are not considered edible.


Long story short, its illegal to waste a big game animal, but a cougar (big game animal) cannot be "wasted" based on the legal definition of waste.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010
« Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 08:48:17 AM by Sneaky »

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2018, 09:05:31 AM »
Thank you for that Sneaky,

To be honest I am surprised by the responses but I guess I wanted to learn how people felt. Now I have a better idea.
I do think in general terms anything we kill and harvest to the fullest extent possible is going to be received by the public better. I know it is not likely we will ever get the blessing of the animal rights crowd but they are few. Just seems to me it would help our PR.
And it is great meat! If you aren't going to eat it you really should save it for someone IMO.
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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2018, 09:14:17 AM »
(66) "To waste" or "to be wasted" means to allow any edible portion of any game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar to be rendered unfit for human consumption, or to fail to retrieve edible portions of such a game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar from the field. For purposes of this chapter, edible portions of game birds must include, at a minimum, the breast meat of those birds. Entrails, including the heart and liver, of any wildlife species are not considered edible.


Long story short, its illegal to waste a big game animal, but a cougar (big game animal) cannot be "wasted" based on the legal definition of waste.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010

This is not the first topic on this forum regarding meat wastage of cougar, thanks for answering the long asked question.  :tup: :tup:
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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2018, 09:18:08 AM »
(66) "To waste" or "to be wasted" means to allow any edible portion of any game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar to be rendered unfit for human consumption, or to fail to retrieve edible portions of such a game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar from the field. For purposes of this chapter, edible portions of game birds must include, at a minimum, the breast meat of those birds. Entrails, including the heart and liver, of any wildlife species are not considered edible.


Long story short, its illegal to waste a big game animal, but a cougar (big game animal) cannot be "wasted" based on the legal definition of waste.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010

This is not the first topic on this forum regarding meat wastage of cougar, thanks for answering the long asked question.  :tup: :tup:

Sorry for any confusion I caused with the first post...like many fish and game laws it is written backwards....if you read the actual wastage RCW it seems obvious that all big game animals are covered which is not the case.

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2018, 09:25:41 AM »
(66) "To waste" or "to be wasted" means to allow any edible portion of any game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar to be rendered unfit for human consumption, or to fail to retrieve edible portions of such a game bird, food fish, game fish, shellfish, or big game animal other than cougar from the field. For purposes of this chapter, edible portions of game birds must include, at a minimum, the breast meat of those birds. Entrails, including the heart and liver, of any wildlife species are not considered edible.


Long story short, its illegal to waste a big game animal, but a cougar (big game animal) cannot be "wasted" based on the legal definition of waste.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010

This is not the first topic on this forum regarding meat wastage of cougar, thanks for answering the long asked question.  :tup: :tup:

Sorry for any confusion I caused with the first post...like many fish and game laws it is written backwards....if you read the actual wastage RCW it seems obvious that all big game animals are covered which is not the case.

Yes you definitely have to dig sometimes, I'm amazed that until you located this, and even though I've been told by local wardens that cougar meat does not have to be retained, still nobody had found the language to fully address this issue. Glad to see it in writing so everyone has the right info!  :tup:
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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2018, 10:04:54 AM »
Big plate of trichinosis. No thanks. I’ll pack the hide and skull out with a smile on my face though. Eating cats and dogs. I’ll leave that for 3rd world countries.

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Re: Make wastage laws apply to cougar
« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2018, 10:24:11 AM »
Big plate of trichinosis. No thanks. I’ll pack the hide and skull out with a smile on my face though. Eating cats and dogs. I’ll leave that for 3rd world countries.

And yet eating bear and pork seems to be acceptable to most. Psychologically I have a problem with bear so I understand it.
Funny how our brain works sometimes. I've killed bear and no way could I eat them until it was turned into sausage. Then no problem.
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