Best of the West!!!

[heavy hauler]

its all personal choice. i can shoot along ways with either a 7mm or 308.  i choose to hunt this year with my bow.  even with   a bow i am the determining factor of what range is to far.

[sportsman002001]

It all comes down to comfort level. Yes they should mention that they have practiced these shots many times. There was a thread over in the bow hunting section "Long Range Shots? True? Ethical?" Again a 30 yard shot may be a long shot for some and 50 yards may be a long shot for others. It all comes down to ones comfort level and practice. And every situation is different is the animal moving, wind blowing, and there are many others. Comes down to know your own limits. Just my 

[duckslayer]

I agree with spotrsman! I am a hardcore bowhunter and I have no problems in the right situation shooting long range with a bow or a rifle. You can't be a weekend warrior and do it though. Don't be a hatter! Most importantly be honest with yourself and know your limits, because they may be different from your hunting partners. After you spend weeks in the woods and get that one chance it shouldn't come down to "I think I can hit him", ITS OVER AT THAT POINT FOR HIM!!

[GEARHEAD]

That show is simply a fking infomercial, that is all it is, ignorantly promoting a product thru reckless and unethical behavior.  I hate that Damn show. Do you really think they are gonna show ya an animal gut shot or hip shot and unrecovered Hell No!
i have set up a custom gun for shooting long range, but unless i can 100 percent guarantee myself that i can slip a bullet inside a 6 inch circle i won't do it. my max is half what they shoot.

[colockumelk]

2-3 hrs to get to the animal??? Man where do you guys come up with this stuff??? If you can do it, and am confident with the shot, take it!!! Its not for me but I have shot an elk at 550 and a deer at 450...I would do it again when given the opportunity!!! Lots of b/s out there like the guys who shoot their bow a couple days before the season and then go fling arrows at game!!!  Atleast these guys practice their stuff, and know their weapons!!!!

 

If you know how to shoot 550 meters really isn't all that far.  Especially if you've got good gear and practise out there alot.  It depends on the person.  A 550 meter rifle shot is not different than when guys take 70 shots with a bow.  Some can do it ethically some can't.  It depends if you practise alot.  I like bow hunting because you get up close and personal.  But if I saw a nice buck at 500 yds plus with my rifle you bet I'd smoke him.  I don't care if a guy takes 1000 meter shots.  If the guy practises that far and is good then the more power to him.  It all depends on the shooter.

As far as videos I hate the long shots because you can't see anything.  I like to see the arrow disapear in the animal.  I like to see the blood pooring out as the thing is running away. 

[Alchase]

My second Rosie I shot at about 60 yds, good hit through both lungs and he had the audacity to ran (fell and tumbled the last 150 ft) down into a ravine completely full of Devils Thorn. It took me over two hours just to get to his body. The rest of the day just to get him out of that damn ravine.
I grew up hunting with an older gentleman that shot nothing but a peepsite 45/70. He took many deer out to around the 200 yd range.
Anyone else shooting I would think it was like shooting an M79 grenade launcher (lobbing slugs) but this gentleman new his weapon.
I have met people that should not more then a 100 yds with a scope. And I have trained at targets out to 1800 yds with a Barret M82. And 1000 yds with M70.
I would not shoot this way while hunting. That does not mean the ability to do so is not there, just something I choose not to do. 

Preaching ethics about someone else's ability to shoot without knowing their background and/or training methods is like wearing the same pair of underwear two days in a row....it makes you kinda feel good but still stinks.

[bowtech721]

Like it was said a thousand times already the distance/ethics is up to the hunter... the guys on that show are hardly what i think hunters are though... anyone who passes up a good shot on a 350 class NM bull because "it would be too hard to pack out" in order to shoot a smaller one the same day is just crazy...

[whacker1]

 

[lostcat]

Yeah my limit is 1.5 miles with a .22 i feel accurate up to that range... To each their own what are guns made for short range or long range hmm. 

[ribka]

IS it illegal to use predator drones for hunting?   I cant wait untill those become available at Cabelas.  I dunno, everyone has their own opion on whats ethical and whats not.  I agree if you are experienced and comfortable with a weapon why not.  My personal feeling is this, if its any further than 300 yds, wheres the experience of the challenge. I do know that shooting an animal at 500+ yards with a weapon desinded for such, is a lot better than some people that I personally know who lob bullets at elk 800 yards away with a 270.


Good point!

But if you enjoy watching the blood gush and spurt out of animals ( see above)  a shot at any range be it bow or rifle is I guess acceptable. Guys taking longs shots, Over 400 yds, are making up for the lack of hunting skills. More concerend about bragging rights (see all of the recent "hunting" shows) after the shot than a quick clean and ethical shot

Firearms instructor in military and now (over 20 years and have won many comps)
As many of you know bullet drift over 500 yds is considerable due to humidity, wind gusts etc.

Remember Hunter safety?
Taught in hunter safety at 12 years of age:
Quick clean and ethical kill is your responsibility to the animal
Always make sure of your target and the background behind your intended target.
How can a guy be sure of background of intended target at 500 yds in the woods?

No problem punching paper at those distances, but I see and find too many wounded elk and deer every hunting season from people taking shots that they have no business taking.

Seems irresponsible to me
Flame on

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

I dont have a issue if the person can make that shot, to me its not hunting anymore, its killing or shooting... big diff  IMO

[big iron]

 did anyone else see guns&ammo this morn. where Craig Boddington shot a 500yrd target,was about a 2" group but moved way left w very light wind he said. My only concern would be is just how much the wind is blowing at an animal 6,7, or800 yrds away!

[BULLBLASTER]

[quote

But if you enjoy watching the blood gush and spurt out of animals ( see above)  a shot at any range be it bow or rifle is I guess acceptable. Guys taking longs shots, Over 400 yds, are making up for the lack of hunting skills. More concerend about bragging rights (see all of the recent "hunting" shows) after the shot than a quick clean and ethical shot

Firearms instructor in military and now (over 20 years and have won many comps)
As many of you know bullet drift over 500 yds is considerable due to humidity, wind gusts etc.

Remember Hunter safety?
Taught in hunter safety at 12 years of age:
Quick clean and ethical kill is your responsibility to the animal
Always make sure of your target and the background behind your intended target.
How can a guy be sure of background of intended target at 500 yds in the woods?

No problem punching paper at those distances, but I see and find too many wounded elk and deer every hunting season from people taking shots that they have no business taking.

Seems irresponsible to me
Flame on

[/quote]

SO, because i killed a bull elk at 590 yards last year with 4 shots from my 7mm mag i lack hunting skills?
what about the 4 point WT buck i killed at 15 yards last year, or the bull elk i killed at under 10 the year before?
you can say nothing of other peoples hunting skills until you know them!!!
for the record i was at the range last summer before my elk hunt once a week shooting a minimum of 20 rounds a day at ranges past 400 yards, and the bull i shot last year had 2 holes in the lungs 1 in the back and one low in the shoulder, thats 4 shots, 4 hits. but i guess your right i suck at hunting...

[bone head]

some people have the skill and shoot alot and then theres the wanta bees that think they can and really cant. i do shoot alot and am comfortable in takeing those shots but only if thats the only option. shepard scopes are what i use and trust em. theres my two  on that

[firecrotch]

those im thinking about buying one of those shepard scopes how do you like it?