IT'S ON WDFW!!!!!! NO CONFIRMATION EMAIL!!!!!! REDRAW!!!!

[SteelheadTed]

Just emailed the director and licensing division. Absolutely NO email sent to me that drawing was in process or complete or whatever everyone else got. Submitted well before deadline. If I was left out I shall demand a REDRAW!!!!!

Based on what facts?  That you *feel* it's wrong?  You really need some facts before you can insist there was something wrong with the draw.  A lack of emails is not proof of a bad draw.  It only proves one of two things, you didn't select to get the emails or the email system didn't send them all out.

Responded to Idahohunter yesterday:


I have absolutely no proof at all and no way to find out proper, and that is a big part of the problem my friend.  The system is absolute crap. Shutouts, lockdowns, no access, disabled features, random emails... The list goes on and on and on. It was supposed to be done and done and done by early this morning from what I had read in the “disclaimer notice” that automatically popped up on the site. Shouldn’t even need a goofy notice like that; obviously posted because they know how screwed up their system is in the  first place and are trying to cover their behinds!

But poor communication is likely just that, poor communication.

And what part of the communication was poor to you again? If you’re talking about the redraw request well why not if dfw has done it in the past for an “accidental” incomplete special application, then why not for an unreceived email?...”it’s the only fair thing to do...” 

The poor communication was on WDFW's part, not yours.  And what I mean is that they may have sucked at communicating the drawing results but that doesn't mean it's anything more than that (such as a draw that was actually screwed up).  So, poor communication is likely just that, poor communication.

[Big6bull]

Doesn’t matter if someone has a complaint, doesn’t matter if it’s invalid complaint or valid. Truth of the fact they won’t read your email. I’ve sent several concerns via email to dfw and several reporting of violations. I don’t think they read our  emails. Worse yet if you dare call they treat you like sh#t for just trying to ask questions. 

[Calvin Rayborn]

Just emailed the director and licensing division. Absolutely NO email sent to me that drawing was in process or complete or whatever everyone else got. Submitted well before deadline. If I was left out I shall demand a REDRAW!!!!!

Based on what facts?  That you *feel* it's wrong?  You really need some facts before you can insist there was something wrong with the draw.  A lack of emails is not proof of a bad draw.  It only proves one of two things, you didn't select to get the emails or the email system didn't send them all out.

Responded to Idahohunter yesterday:


I have absolutely no proof at all and no way to find out proper, and that is a big part of the problem my friend.  The system is absolute crap. Shutouts, lockdowns, no access, disabled features, random emails... The list goes on and on and on. It was supposed to be done and done and done by early this morning from what I had read in the “disclaimer notice” that automatically popped up on the site. Shouldn’t even need a goofy notice like that; obviously posted because they know how screwed up their system is in the  first place and are trying to cover their behinds!

But poor communication is likely just that, poor communication.

And what part of the communication was poor to you again? If you’re talking about the redraw request well why not if dfw has done it in the past for an “accidental” incomplete special application, then why not for an unreceived email?...”it’s the only fair thing to do...” 

The poor communication was on WDFW's part, not yours.  And what I mean is that they may have sucked at communicating the drawing results but that doesn't mean it's anything more than that (such as a draw that was actually screwed up).  So, poor communication is likely just that, poor communication.

Got it 

[Calvin Rayborn]

Doesn’t matter if someone has a complaint, doesn’t matter if it’s invalid complaint or valid. Truth of the fact they won’t read your email. I’ve sent several concerns via email to dfw and several reporting of violations. I don’t think they read our  emails. Worse yet if you dare call they treat you like sh#t for just trying to ask questions. 

They did respond to me within 1-2 business days as per the standard auto-reply whenever you send an email after hours. It was very short, however, and simply stated that I was in the drawing and was not selected and to check my email settings (which I had already done).

Had the feeling after that point that any further attempts at discussion prolly wouldn’t get me very far...

[JWEBB]

Doesn’t matter if someone has a complaint, doesn’t matter if it’s invalid complaint or valid. Truth of the fact they won’t read your email. I’ve sent several concerns via email to dfw and several reporting of violations. I don’t think they read our  emails. Worse yet if you dare call they treat you like sh#t for just trying to ask questions. 

They did respond to me within 1-2 business days as per the standard auto-reply whenever you send an email after hours. It was very short, however, and simply stated that I was in the drawing and was not selected and to check my email settings (which I had already done).

Had the feeling after that point that any further attempts at discussion prolly wouldn’t get me very far...

Sounds about right. Calling them won’t get you anywhere either but you will get a better explanation. I called and emailed after the spring bear debacle and they actually told me quite a bit of info on the phone. Give em a ring Cal!