Hornady ELD-X????

[jrebel]

Well, does anyone have experience with the ELD-X bullets from hornady?  Looking for the good bad and indifferent as it pertains to performance on game. 

I loaded some for the first time and preliminary results are promising.  300 win mag 212 grain ELD-X pushed by 76.5 grains of H1000 and a 5 shot group printed a .71" group.  With a little tweaking I may get it smaller but to be totally honest, I would be happy with what it did tonight if it repeats at 200, 300, etc. 

Thanks in advance. 

jrebel

[carpsniperg2]

I’ve killed many animals last couple years with them. From tiny black buck to elk. Been very happy with them so far. I still prefer my accubond but I have a couple rifles that just love them. So been shooting some critters with them. 143eldx at 3250 has done most the work including 2 elk.

[BULLBLASTER]

Very similar on game performance to bergers.

[JJB11B]

6.5 Creedmore and the 140 ELD-X work FANTASTIC on coyotes. as long as you don't want to save the hide. I will let you know this fall how Bear like them

[The scout]

Been running the 200’s in my 300 rum they are super easy to load for and perform similar to bergers on game. I switched to the 212’s I can see how many 200’s I have left if you would be interested

[Cascade]

It worked great on my bear.  Fell out the opposite shoulder as I was skinning.


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[jrebel]

Been running the 200’s in my 300 rum they are super easy to load for and perform similar to bergers on game. I switched to the 212’s I can see how many 200’s I have left if you would be interested

Appreciat the offer but if the 212's keep performing, I will stick with them.  I hope to be hunting moose and bear with this rifle so the heavier the better. 

[j_h_nimrod]

I had really wanted them to work but had crap luck with them in my 28 Nosler, and I tried everything I could think of to make them shoot. Best I got was 2” and 3-4” was pretty typical. Switched to ABLRs and had much better luck, though as mentioned in the other thread they are a bit finicky.

[bobcat]

I've only shot a couple groups so far with 178 grain in my Weatherby Vanguard 30/06 and they shot fantastic. Will see how they perform on deer and antelope in September.

[Oh Mah]

Haven't used them on game yet but i loaded 220 for 300 rum and 200 for the win mag. I read great things but don't know to compare to bergers as a lot of reviews are not good for bergers.

[jasnt]

Haven't used them on game yet but i loaded 220 for 300 rum and 200 for the win mag. I read great things but don't know to compare to bergers as a lot of reviews are not good for bergers.

from what I seen the guys that don’t like begets are shoulder punchers. Not vitals shooters.  Never had a Berger fail my self.  Drt    just my experience.

[Magnum_Willys]

Haven't used them on game yet but i loaded 220 for 300 rum and 200 for the win mag. I read great things but don't know to compare to bergers as a lot of reviews are not good for bergers.

from what I seen the guys that don’t like begets are shoulder punchers. Not vitals shooters.  Never had a Berger fail my self.  Drt    just my experience.

I was thinking you need to hit bone to get them to expand ?  So many horror stories out there just haven't tried Bergers and after York's terminal expansion tests where they failed to expand at all I've stayed away.  Good to hear they work for some.  Not to derail this eld thread but comparisons are valuable. 

[Oh Mah]

  I've read that the Berger's are a bullet that is not forgiving with distance and speed variables to fast fail,too slow fail.  I've read also that the eld-x is totally opposite.they work well fast and slower that's why i want to try them this season on deer .300 win mag and elk .300 rum.

[carpsniperg2]

  That is what the big appeal is. The two elk I shot were good test for range. One was at 50 yard and one at 470-480. Both had solid results. The close one I really doubted at 3200 fps figured it would vaporize but held together enough for a good kill.

[jasnt]

I just wonder how many of those “horror story’s” were target bullets, or were before there was a difference between the 2.  I have not shot any of the Hornady eld but hear a lot about them.  Reason I don’t shoot Hornady is the inconsistency I’ve seen in the ones I have shot.  Maybe one day I will try them but for now I’ll stick to what works for me.  To be fair about it every game animal I’ve taken has been less than 200 yards and 90% have been less than 50.

[spoonman]

They shoot sub moa in a savage 7mm that I have and when I shot a deer last year the bullet killed the deer fast so I guess that's good. In my tikka 7mm and Browning Abolt 338 they shot very poor groups so went with another brand.

[Karl Blanchard]

The eldx is a fine bullet but it's not some magic whiz bang unicorn bullet.  It's a high BC cup and core bullet.  I shot the 212 in my 300wsm the last season and a half.   Very easy bullet to load.  Seemed like any powder charge i threw at it, it would shoot half minute.  They are a bit on the slow side though.  6 deer and two elk and I've found 6 jackets.  Jacket and core separation was almost a guarantee (which is fine).  Shots were from 95 out to 802.  Back to Berger for me.   

[theleo]

All they are is a high BC SST, so plan accordingly.

[Jonathan_S]

Shooting them out of my 6.5-60AI, very happy with them.  Not sure they do anything a Berger 140 wouldn't but they're good and I've found excellent consistency from box to box.

They do well accuracy-wise at a hair over 3100.  Haven't killed anything with them yet except rocks and steel.  Just like with the Bergers or any bullet, shoot them behind the shoulder and they die 

[b23]

Shot a few of the 175 ELD-X bullets in my 7mm Blaser Mag.  They seem to shoot pretty well and compared to my 180 Berger "go to" load, they shot about 60 fps faster.

[yorketransport]

If you're comfortable using Bergers on game then I imagine you'd be happy with the ELD-X. If I were to pick between the two I'd go with the Hornady. The plastic tip on the ELD-X reduces the potential for nose damage, which is a big reason for the bullet "failures" that people see.

[elkslayer069]

Here’s a 250gn Berger failure entrance hole for you guys this buck dropped in its tracks and jumped up and took off about 500 yards until I caught back up with him


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[jasnt]

Was that an EH?

[elkslayer069]

Was that an EH?

Entrance hole? If so yeah it was, I can see it it was slowmo it expanded the size of a basketball before it broke. Legs sucked up and he bounced off the ground when he hit them he got back up and took off

[yorketransport]

Here’s a 250gn Berger failure entrance hole for you guys this buck dropped in its tracks and jumped up and took off about 500 yards until I caught back up with him

It blew up the shoulder and split him into halves!

Was that an EH?

Entrance hole? If so yeah it was, I can see it it was slowmo it expanded the size of a basketball before it broke. Legs sucked up and he bounced off the ground when he hit them he got back up and took off

He means Elite Hunter; Berger offers 250gr OTMs and 250gr Elite Hunters. The EH line is designed to expand better than the OTMs.

[JJB11B]

Here’s a 250gn Berger failure entrance hole for you guys this buck dropped in its tracks and jumped up and took off about 500 yards until I caught back up with him

It blew up the shoulder and split him into halves!

Was that an EH?

Entrance hole? If so yeah it was, I can see it it was slowmo it expanded the size of a basketball before it broke. Legs sucked up and he bounced off the ground when he hit them he got back up and took off

He means Elite Hunter; Berger offers 250gr OTMs and 250gr Elite Hunters. The EH line is designed to expand better than the OTMs.

looks like it expanded!

[jasnt]

Yes elite hunter is what I meant.   A shot like that behind the shoulder would have been drt

[elkslayer069]

Nope it was an otm they seem to work fine for me at longer distance. They seem to have worked like they should at 625 on my elk this year but not worth a dam up close. I’ve shot several other deer  “behind the shoulder shots” with similar results one at about 150 yards and the other just over 200 yards. Accurate bullets? Yes Long range terminal performance? Yes General all purpose bullet? No

[jasnt]

Like I said earlier in this thread. Many of bergers failures are attributable to people using match bullets to hunt with and taking non vitals shots.  Otm’s are not designed for hunting. Will they work? Yes. Can they fail? Yes  do many folks attribute the failure to be bergers fault? Yes. Are they correct? No

[jrebel]

Ok....moose and bear!!!!   Will the bullet perform??  I sure hope so cause so far it is the only bullet this gun likes. 

[jasnt]

Sorry for the thread jack

From what I’ve heard and read the eldx will work as intended.

[BULLBLASTER]

I watched a Moose fall to a 162 Eld x from a 280 ai last fall.
They will be fine 

[The scout]

Ok....moose and bear!!!!   Will the bullet perform??  I sure hope so cause so far it is the only bullet this gun likes.

Yes

[Yondering]

6.5 Creedmore and the 140 ELD-X work FANTASTIC on coyotes. as long as you don't want to save the hide. I will let you know this fall how Bear like them

Do you mean the 140 ELD-M, or the 143 ELD-X? Different bullets, with different construction. There is no 6.5 140 ELD-X.

[Jonathan_S]

I watched a Moose fall to a 162 Eld x from a 280 ai last fall.
They will be fine 

  and bear will fall to anything that a deer will  just because they don't bleed onto the ground like a deer doesn't mean they are insanely tough

[jasnt]

I watched a Moose fall to a 162 Eld x from a 280 ai last fall.
They will be fine 

  and bear will fall to anything that a deer will  just because they don't bleed onto the ground like a deer doesn't mean they are insanely tough

yup I’ve killed most my bear with the 243

[JJB11B]

6.5 Creedmore and the 140 ELD-X work FANTASTIC on coyotes. as long as you don't want to save the hide. I will let you know this fall how Bear like them

Do you mean the 140 ELD-M, or the 143 ELD-X? Different bullets, with different construction. There is no 6.5 140 ELD-X.

I would beg to differ with you. Edit to add that I would beg to differ with you and be wrong 

[JJB11B]

6.5 Creedmore and the 140 ELD-X work FANTASTIC on coyotes. as long as you don't want to save the hide. I will let you know this fall how Bear like them

Do you mean the 140 ELD-M, or the 143 ELD-X? Different bullets, with different construction. There is no 6.5 140 ELD-X.

I would beg to differ with you. Edit to add that I would beg to differ with you and be wrong 

Now I really need to go look in my ammo stash and see what they heck I am shooting. I didn't shoot my 6.5 at coyotes last year so I haven't bought any ammo for it in a while. I wonder what It was I was shooting. It was definitely a coyote hammer. 2 inch exits if it even thought about touching bone.

[Yondering]

6.5 Creedmore and the 140 ELD-X work FANTASTIC on coyotes. as long as you don't want to save the hide. I will let you know this fall how Bear like them

Do you mean the 140 ELD-M, or the 143 ELD-X? Different bullets, with different construction. There is no 6.5 140 ELD-X.

I would beg to differ with you. Edit to add that I would beg to differ with you and be wrong 

Now I really need to go look in my ammo stash and see what they heck I am shooting. I didn't shoot my 6.5 at coyotes last year so I haven't bought any ammo for it in a while. I wonder what It was I was shooting. It was definitely a coyote hammer. 2 inch exits if it even thought about touching bone.

That sounds like the A-max or ELD-M, since they're a more lightly jacketed target bullet, but I'd be interested to hear what it really was if you can figure it out. I haven't used many of the 140 ELD-M, but the 123 A-max/ELD-M acts like you describe; honestly they seem to act like a V-max but with higher b.c. for long range.

[CaNINE]

The ELD-X has performed well for me.  I used a 200 grain out of a 300WSM on my Wyoming Black Bear.  Complete pass through with a 1" exit at distance.  I will continue using this combo in the WSM.   

After trying 3 different powders I couldn't get the 143 to shoot well in my 264WM so am sticking with Berger 140 VLD there.  I've had nothing but good outcomes from the 140 VLD.  Also using the 140 in the 6.5CM with good results on game.

A friend in Montana took several deer and antelope last fall with the 143 ELD-X and the 260REM.  Near and far, some real far, all one shot kills.

[BigGoonTuna]

I just picked up a box of 145 grainers to try in my .270, with RL26 i think i may be able to hit 3100fps.