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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #315 on: July 19, 2018, 04:54:02 PM »
This seems a little bitter.We know enough?
Don't we have a right to know who what when where and how much some group is spending,what their doing,why they are doing it and all that?I feel that with the story at face value the wdfw put the ? out here.Why not want the helicopter to rescue?
« Last Edit: July 19, 2018, 05:11:13 PM by Oh Mah »
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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #316 on: July 19, 2018, 05:07:47 PM »
I'd wonder if all the people wanting to know who she was and who she worked for would post in this thread their name, their job and the location where they live. Especially any of those who work for the government.
This is not really a pertinent analogy though. She's a public employee as well as being involved in a rescue operation which was reported by the news and investigated by the county sheriff. I don't see any parallel between her situation and someone taking part in an online forum.  :dunno:
Just because you are part of a rescue operation doesn't mean your name needs to be plastered everywhere. As for the sheriff's "investigation" it's political and not legally based. There's no law that says the sheriff (or any LE agency) has to investigate what happened. The sheriff is simply going on along the "public safety" route, well there's no law that says you have to ID yourself when an agency is investigating something for "public safety" reasons.

Heck, I'm sure she probably got cut up and may have some psychological issues from this, hello HIPPA protection.

Well, that's what usually happens when the government has to spend thousands of dollars to go rescue someone out of the wilderness. Personally, I don't care who she is as long as we can get to the bottom of the story. That's where the rub is. Without knowing who she is, we're going to have a hard time pinpointing the responsible department and exactly what they were doing there and why they whisked her away before the local authorities had a chance to question her for information which could be used to keep locals safe. It certainly wasn't a salmon count and it was handled oddly.

The department responsible for what?

Here's the thing. Wolves are wild animals. They could be dangerous to people. So could bears. So could lions. So could raccoons. People shouldn't need to be told that. If you do, you might consider taking up a new hobby.


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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #317 on: July 19, 2018, 05:09:40 PM »
I'd wonder if all the people wanting to know who she was and who she worked for would post in this thread their name, their job and the location where they live. Especially any of those who work for the government.
This is not really a pertinent analogy though. She's a public employee as well as being involved in a rescue operation which was reported by the news and investigated by the county sheriff. I don't see any parallel between her situation and someone taking part in an online forum.  :dunno:
Just because you are part of a rescue operation doesn't mean your name needs to be plastered everywhere. As for the sheriff's "investigation" it's political and not legally based. There's no law that says the sheriff (or any LE agency) has to investigate what happened. The sheriff is simply going on along the "public safety" route, well there's no law that says you have to ID yourself when an agency is investigating something for "public safety" reasons.

Heck, I'm sure she probably got cut up and may have some psychological issues from this, hello HIPPA protection.
Well, that's what usually happens when the government has to spend thousands of dollars to go rescue someone out of the wilderness. Personally, I don't care who she is as long as we can get to the bottom of the story. That's where the rub is. Without knowing who she is, we're going to have a hard time pinpointing the responsible department and exactly what they were doing there and why they whisked her away before the local authorities had a chance to question her for information which could be used to keep locals safe. It certainly wasn't a salmon count and it was handled oddly.
The department responsible for what?
:yeah:
I wondered that as well.

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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #318 on: July 19, 2018, 05:10:35 PM »
And some more heat.....   there’s a female Utah biologist studying the impact of Grizzly and wolf interactions.   Say it ain’t so.   

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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #321 on: July 19, 2018, 05:15:12 PM »
Im sure I’ll never draw a tag again. Lol

I posed the question on their Facebook open forum discussing their 30 million dollar debt.   I wanted to know how much is spent on wolf recovery every year.   Several others seconded the question.   They refused to answer.  @kirkl  and I will probably be in the loser lounge forever.

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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #322 on: July 19, 2018, 05:21:20 PM »
http://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/archive/2017/02/10/3f70199a-ef1a-11e6-94b9-ef89df8d8d64/#.W1ElXBZlCaM
Sorry to burst your bubble but she's not a USFS employee. And that is public knowledge.

https://www.fs.fed.us/about-agency/contact-us/employee-search?first_name=&last_name=Tallian+&office=

She probably has friends. Lol

“ Aimee Tallian poses in front of Pelican Valley winter base camp, where she and other members of her crew study wolf interactions....”.

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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #323 on: July 19, 2018, 05:25:48 PM »
http://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/archive/2017/02/10/3f70199a-ef1a-11e6-94b9-ef89df8d8d64/#.W1ElXBZlCaM
Sorry to burst your bubble but she's not a USFS employee. And that is public knowledge.

https://www.fs.fed.us/about-agency/contact-us/employee-search?first_name=&last_name=Tallian+&office=
She probably has friends. Lol

“ Aimee Tallian poses in front of Pelican Valley winter base camp, where she and other members of her crew study wolf interactions....”.
Not everything is a conspiracy. One of the luxuries of being a federal employee is being able to take temporary assignments all over the US, similar to how state employees bounce all over a state. There are federal game wardens from all over the US in Texas right now doing border enforcement, or are they??? Maybe the real reason is they're capturing wolves from Mexico and bringing them to their home states!  :o

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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #324 on: July 19, 2018, 05:27:27 PM »
Those are coyotees they are catching.

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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #325 on: July 19, 2018, 05:28:31 PM »
And some more heat.....   there’s a female Utah biologist studying the impact of Grizzly and wolf interactions.   Say it ain’t so.
:tinfoil:

I only see one issue that needs some looking into...and that is WDFWs initial response or request they not send a helicopter to pick this lady up.  They corrected the mistake quickly and acknowledged it was a screw up...but if there is a need for any inquiry that's it.

Any of these questions about who this lady was, who she worked for, and what work she was doing addresses nothing.  What are those of you advocating the need for this type of information thinking this will solve? 

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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #326 on: July 19, 2018, 05:30:41 PM »
And some more heat.....   there’s a female Utah biologist studying the impact of Grizzly and wolf interactions.   Say it ain’t so.
:tinfoil:

I only see one issue that needs some looking into...and that is WDFWs initial response or request they not send a helicopter to pick this lady up.  They corrected the mistake quickly and acknowledged it was a screw up...but if there is a need for any inquiry that's it.

Any of these questions about who this lady was, who she worked for, and what work she was doing addresses nothing.  What are those of you advocating the need for this type of information thinking this will solve?
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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #327 on: July 19, 2018, 05:32:45 PM »
Im sure I’ll never draw a tag again. Lol

I posed the question on their Facebook open forum discussing their 30 million dollar debt.   I wanted to know how much is spent on wolf recovery every year.   Several others seconded the question.   They refused to answer.  @kirkl  and I will probably be in the loser lounge forever.
  :dunno: Why would you think you will never get drawn again?
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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #328 on: July 19, 2018, 05:36:03 PM »
Im sure I’ll never draw a tag again. Lol

I posed the question on their Facebook open forum discussing their 30 million dollar debt.   I wanted to know how much is spent on wolf recovery every year.   Several others seconded the question.   They refused to answer.  @kirkl  and I will probably be in the loser lounge forever.
  :dunno: Why would you think you will never get drawn again?
Well, If you don't cut holes in your tinfoil hat - its hard to enter the right hunt number in your online application and it's impossible to draw if you enter invalid hunt codes.  :dunno:  :chuckle:
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Re: Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county
« Reply #329 on: July 19, 2018, 05:38:59 PM »
Im sure I’ll never draw a tag again. Lol

I posed the question on their Facebook open forum discussing their 30 million dollar debt.   I wanted to know how much is spent on wolf recovery every year.   Several others seconded the question.   They refused to answer.  @kirkl  and I will probably be in the loser lounge forever.
  :dunno: Why would you think you will never get drawn again?
He's being sarcastic

 


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