Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county

[Jonathan_S]

Lies @Bob33!


Okay maybe 15 

[Bob33]

Lies @Bob33!


Okay maybe 15 

22. Let's split the difference.

[KFhunter]

In hindsight they erred by not calling for a helicopter sooner. They've admitted as much. If they had called for a helicopter and it turned out later to be not needed, there would be 30 pages complaining about their poor judgment and the excessive waste of funds they incurred.

I don't buy that either. 

No one would fault them for "agreeing" to send a helicopter that had already been requested by the Sheriff's office and DNR.  WDFW went out of their way to stand it down (or attempt to) but they didn't initiate the call out in the first place, they tried to quash it. The helicopter was a DNR asset (contracted) fire crew.

It really didn't have much to do with WDFW other than it involved dangerous wildlife. The Sheriff's office doesn't need any other agencies approval to protect life and property, or rescue someone, even if it's from a protected species. 



My take away is that WDFW will NOT have any of our backs should anyone need to protect themselves from wolves, and that's a bad position to be in.

Why in the world would someone want to subject themselves to this obviously biased scrutiny when WDFW tried to call off a helicopter from rescuing a tree'd woman?   
I know what my defense in court would be!

 

[bracer40]

Fascinating piece of Reporting! It’s been very useful in deciding between bear spray and a sidearm in this years upcoming hunt.

Never worried much about walking around in the dark around cougar and bear kills in WA w nothing more than a flashlight and my wits.  But going to grizz country has given me serious reason to consider the options.

[Skyvalhunter]

What will your choice be?

[bracer40]

What will your choice be?

It will be loud for sure. Haven’t narrowed down the specifics yet.

[bigmacc]

My prediction is the next encounter will not turn out so well, its just a matter of time before a jogger, bike rider, x country skier or even a hunter gets it, chances are they are not going to have equipment to call in for help or a helicopter for that matter. As far as the Methow valley goes more and more people moving there and using it for more and more recreational activities, the last place wolves should be populating, mark my words, just a matter of time...

[Southpole]

How is having wolves in the woods with a possibility of endangering a human any different than any of the other animals we have always had? Bear, coyote, cougar, deer etc?

You’ll probably get hung if you defend yourself against wolves in this state, that’s the difference that sticks out to me.

[Allen23]

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And then there's the fact that the wolves haven't been hunted in WA, they don't have the respect for humans that say bears, coyotes or cats do, I'm sure the girl that went tree climbing has a different outlook on pepper spray.

 

 We have taught the wolf that there is no reason no reason to fear man in this area. So why would they act any different. They have a curious nature with instinctual intentions, survive, which means consume food when opportunity presents its self, they also take the path of least resistance. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the average unarmed human walking Fido down the nature trail is going to put up less than a fight than your average cow elk..... as soon as they figure that out peoples opinions will change. I just don't understand why we have to wait for this to happen.
 F and G is wanting to shake up the natural order of things by introducing NOT Reintroducing ( because these guys were never here) a predator that they realistically have no idea how to manage. You cant start putting piranhas in trout ponds all over the northwest and expect them to do only management work by taking out the weak. 

[bigmacc]

And then there's the fact that the wolves haven't been hunted in WA, they don't have the respect for humans that say bears, coyotes or cats do, I'm sure the girl that went tree climbing has a different outlook on pepper spray.

 

 We have taught the wolf that there is no reason no reason to fear man in this area. So why would they act any different. They have a curious nature with instinctual intentions, survive, which means consume food when opportunity presents its self, they also take the path of least resistance. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the average unarmed human walking Fido down the nature trail is going to put up less than a fight than your average cow elk..... as soon as they figure that out peoples opinions will change. I just don't understand why we have to wait for this to happen.
 F and G is wanting to shake up the natural order of things by introducing NOT Reintroducing ( because these guys were never here) a predator that they realistically have no idea how to manage. You cant start putting piranhas in trout ponds all over the northwest and expect them to do only management work by taking out the weak.
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 ...there ya go.

[Cougartail]

Odds of getting killed by a wolf, .135 in a million. Odds of dying of cancer 1640 in a million.


I won't lose any sleep tonight worrying about a wolf attack.

[Jpmiller]

Odds of getting killed by a wolf, .135 in a million. Odds of dying of cancer 1640 in a million.


I won't lose any sleep tonight worrying about a wolf attack.

Well now I won't sleep from worrying about cancer

[CAMPMEAT]

Would there of been a helo called out for a cougar snooping around said tree climber ? I doubt it.

[KFhunter]

She probably wouldn't climb a tree to escape a Cougar 

[Jpmiller]

Would there of been a helo called out for a cougar snooping around said tree climber ? I doubt it.

They call that a retrieval not a rescue and the sense of urgency isn't the same.