Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county

[MtnMuley]

We both know if it all worked peachy, agencies would work together like that. However, when a USFWS guy tells a couple lies to a sheriff's employee investigating the case, the sheriffs office is more than likely to stand their ground about dealing with the situation. Afterall, wolves are a pretty touchy subject in this county. You would have to agree with that, correct?

[bearpaw]

Wolfbait did not say that no one would investigate, only that USFWS may be declining to investigate and leaving it up to local police.  Wolves are delisted statewide in Idaho leaving management to the state (including investigations)

(but I get that it's far more fun to paint wolfbait as a tinfoil hat conspiracy wacko)

Do local police investigate when a bear attacks someone?
Did the city of North Bend Police investigate when the lion killed that person on the timber land?
I guess I always assumed that the WDFW investigates. Maybe when it's an ESA animal, the feds would investigate?

Anyone know the actual protocol here, tinfoil hats or not aside?
@bigtex ?

For wildlife attacks the state (WDFW) is the lead agency.
For domestic animals it is the city/county that is responsible.

Snoqualmie-North Bend PD did not respond as it was outside city limits. King County SO did respond, but it's WDFW's case. Quite simply, local law enforcement isn't trained in wildlife attacks, the responding deputies may not know the difference between a cougar and a Siberian tiger.

As far as the feds go they will certainly be notified but they are spread thin and WDFW officers are deputized as USFWS LEOs.

Most counties true, but not totally correct. In Stevens county our Sherrif's dept is trained and we have a county depredation investigator. This happened because we were not getting good service from WDFW!

[bearpaw]

The news video on this link plays the 911 call confusion:

Rescue response delayed for woman treed by wolves in Washington
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/rescue-response-delayed-for-woman-treed-by-wolves-in-washington/277-580035863

[Knocker of rocks]

Very informative.

[wolfbait]

Thanks for the update Dale

Not to change the subject, but this reminds me of when the USFS employee's were calling for water drops up thirty mile, and the USFS and the fish environmentalists were haggling back and forth trying to decide if they could or should dip water out of Lost River, we all know how that turned out, big cover-up.

USFWS-WDFW=Wolves come first everything/one else is expendable...

[jstone]

This state is so messed up. Where a young human life is worth more than an animal. This is just BS..!!!!!!

Just go get her safe then figure it out later.!!!

[SkookumHntr]

I hope they post the names of the wdfw employees who told the search and rescue team to stand down!

[bearpaw]

I hope they post the names of the wdfw employees who told the search and rescue team to stand down!

That would be interesting but doubt they will?

[bigmacc]

Great find bearpaw, this whole wolf deal has kind of "smelled" for years, its really beginning to stink as time goes by and the WDFW wonders why people don't put a lot of faith or trust into them, we really do need a separate agency to take care of hunting and fishing interests in this state, an actual Fish and Game dept that looks over and has the interest of hunters and fisherman as job 1 and let the WDFW care to there predators, lizards, snakes and other "wildlife". I truly think the they are stretched to thin, being pulled in to many directions, have too many irons in the fire, too many conflicts of interests,  too many special interest groups to cater to and so on and our interests as hunters and fisherman have fallen way down the list.

[bearpaw]

Great find bearpaw, this whole wolf deal has kind of "smelled" for years, its really beginning to stink as time goes by and the WDFW wonders why people don't put a lot of faith or trust into them, we really do need a separate agency to take care of hunting and fishing interests in this state, an actual Fish and Game dept that looks over and has the interest of hunters and fisherman as job 1 and let the WDFW care to there predators, lizards, snakes and other "wildlife". I truly think the they are stretched to thin, being pulled in to many directions, have too many irons in the fire, too many conflicts of interests,  too many special interest groups to cater to and so on and our interests as hunters and fisherman have fallen way down the list.

 

How much do you see on the home page about hunting! 
https://wdfw.wa.gov/

[bigmacc]

Great find bearpaw, this whole wolf deal has kind of "smelled" for years, its really beginning to stink as time goes by and the WDFW wonders why people don't put a lot of faith or trust into them, we really do need a separate agency to take care of hunting and fishing interests in this state, an actual Fish and Game dept that looks over and has the interest of hunters and fisherman as job 1 and let the WDFW care to there predators, lizards, snakes and other "wildlife". I truly think the they are stretched to thin, being pulled in to many directions, have too many irons in the fire, too many conflicts of interests,  too many special interest groups to cater to and so on and our interests as hunters and fisherman have fallen way down the list.

 

How much do you see on the home page about hunting! 
https://wdfw.wa.gov/

Exactly! 

[wolfbait]

Great find bearpaw, this whole wolf deal has kind of "smelled" for years, its really beginning to stink as time goes by and the WDFW wonders why people don't put a lot of faith or trust into them, we really do need a separate agency to take care of hunting and fishing interests in this state, an actual Fish and Game dept that looks over and has the interest of hunters and fisherman as job 1 and let the WDFW care to there predators, lizards, snakes and other "wildlife". I truly think the they are stretched to thin, being pulled in to many directions, have too many irons in the fire, too many conflicts of interests,  too many special interest groups to cater to and so on and our interests as hunters and fisherman have fallen way down the list.

 

How much do you see on the home page about hunting! 
https://wdfw.wa.gov/

 

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[Alpine Mojo]

Rescue response delayed for woman treed by wolves in Washington
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/rescue-response-delayed-for-woman-treed-by-wolves-in-washington/277-580035863

Waiting to see how Bigtex tries to spin this.

[JimmyHoffa]

The wolf consultant kool aid must be working.....on WDFW.

I am wondering does WDFW actually think wolves are harmless?  Or were they hoping for the best, fearing the worst that they would have to call in their extra expensive helo snipers and then get yelled at by the legislature (Ranker) and Inslee?

[buglebrush]

Rescue response delayed for woman treed by wolves in Washington
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/rescue-response-delayed-for-woman-treed-by-wolves-in-washington/277-580035863

Waiting to see how Bigtex tries to spin this.

I honestly feel sorry for him.  It must be hard to come to grips with what WDFW has become, but I'm also hoping people open their eyes to what is happening to this state.