WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit

[baker5150]

The number of permit applications has been going up the past few years, not down.  I think more people talk about not hunting in wa than really do quit.

11% decrease over the last 10 years, in license sales.

Not even close to enough revenue to make up the deficit.

[Oh Mah]

I'm curious to know with all this talk of no problem found if there truly is a deficit.If no one is doing anything wrong how could there possibly be this big of a deficit?

That said wasn't it just last year (scratch that it was this year that they caught it) that an IT worker stole 80k+ fuel bill was found after a very long use was finally discovered to be going on?That seemed like a dept. problem.

here it is.

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/it-worker-allegedly-stole-80000-worth-of-fuel-using-wdfw-gas-cards/

[bigtex]

I'm curious to know with all this talk of no problem found if there truly is a deficit.If no one is doing anything wrong how could there possibly be this big of a deficit?

That said wasn't it just last year (scratch that it was this year that they caught it) that an IT worker stole 80k+ fuel bill was found after a very long use was finally discovered to be going on?That seemed like a dept. problem.

here it is.

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/it-worker-allegedly-stole-80000-worth-of-fuel-using-wdfw-gas-cards/

80K out of almost a half billion dollar budget. Employees at every level (city, county, state, federal) are always getting in trouble for theft, just like they are in the private sector. There's always those who will take advantage of that government/company credit card.

[Fl0und3rz]

Consultant said it's all good.

[Oh Mah]

80k 1 caught. in this dept. How many others how long before they get caught?

When there is 1 there is usually more,was this left out of the report?looks like it to me.

[Oh Mah]

I'm curious to know with all this talk of no problem found if there truly is a deficit.If no one is doing anything wrong how could there possibly be this big of a deficit?

That said wasn't it just last year (scratch that it was this year that they caught it) that an IT worker stole 80k+ fuel bill was found after a very long use was finally discovered to be going on?That seemed like a dept. problem.

here it is.

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/it-worker-allegedly-stole-80000-worth-of-fuel-using-wdfw-gas-cards/

80K out of almost a half billion dollar budget. Employees at every level (city, county, state, federal) are always getting in trouble for theft, just like they are in the private sector. There's always those who will take advantage of that government/company credit card.

This should not be minimized.

[bigtex]

I'm curious to know with all this talk of no problem found if there truly is a deficit.If no one is doing anything wrong how could there possibly be this big of a deficit?

That said wasn't it just last year (scratch that it was this year that they caught it) that an IT worker stole 80k+ fuel bill was found after a very long use was finally discovered to be going on?That seemed like a dept. problem.

here it is.

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/it-worker-allegedly-stole-80000-worth-of-fuel-using-wdfw-gas-cards/

80K out of almost a half billion dollar budget. Employees at every level (city, county, state, federal) are always getting in trouble for theft, just like they are in the private sector. There's always those who will take advantage of that government/company credit card.

This should not be minimized.

And the employee has been fired, charged with criminal charges, and the WDFW has changed it's fueling procedures.

[Oh Mah]

Good they made a change when it was needed,Wish it would become a trend but i doubt it.The fact is and you said it yourself,No agency is without fault so for this consultant to come out and say that the dept. holds no fault in the deficit is total garbage.

agreed?

[bigtex]

Good they made a change when it was needed,Wish it would become a trend but i doubt it.The fact is and you said it yourself,No agency is without fault so for this consultant to come out and say that the dept. holds no fault in the deficit is total garbage.

agreed?

There's a big difference between WDFW is responsible for the $30,000,000 deficit and did WDFW spend 100% of their money wisely. Nobody, whether it's a company, government agency, or an individual spends 100% of their money wisely. We all make bad purchases, investments, etc. For WDFW they erred in trusting an employee with a gas card and it cost them 80k, now if it all goes well they will recoup that amount when the individual is found guilty. But do I think because one employee committed theft that WDFW is to blame for the courts ruling against the state and now the state having to spend hundreds of millions on salmon projects, or the state legislature creating programs without funding them WDFW's fault? No.

[Oh Mah]

How about this? http://www.capitalpress.com/Livestock/20171221/wdfw-pens-425000-contract-extension-with-wolf-consultant


starting to add up?Only 2 items and its 1/2 a million.

[bigtex]

How about this?http://www.capitalpress.com/Livestock/20171221/wdfw-pens-425000-contract-extension-with-wolf-consultant starting to add up?Only 2 items and its 1/2 a million.

You do realize I am not the outside consultant correct? If you have an issue with the report then contact them and the state legislature since they are the ones who wanted it.

[Fl0und3rz]

We all make bad purchases, investments, etc.

We all don't have the option to dip into somebody else's pockets to finance our continued misadventures.

Does WDFW practice ZBB?  Well-run private firms do.


Which reminds me to ask.  Is this $30M shortfall a shortfall on a budget increase or a shortfall over last year's budget?

[Fl0und3rz]

How about this? http://www.capitalpress.com/Livestock/20171221/wdfw-pens-425000-contract-extension-with-wolf-consultant


starting to add up?Only 2 items and its 1/2 a million.

Or 1.7% of the shortfall.

[Humptulips]

DFW does stuff like Hydraulic Permit work, seafood inspection, endangered species rehabilitation on things we will never get to hunt like pond turtles etc. Maybe worthwhile things and maybe DFW is the proper agency to oversee them but who should pay?
Some of the stuff they do benefits the General Public more so then just hunters and fisherman. The Legislature needs to pony up for those things or not expect them to get done.

[Oh Mah]

If only we knew how much WDFW pays out in equipment damages / replacement,Lawsuits,theft etc then we could see a better picture for this 30 million deficit that is not the dept. fault.