Get ready for Washington State hunting licenses to skyrocket!!!!

[KFhunter]

One thing to watch out for in the fee increase proposal is giving WDFW the authority to raise fees every other year for cost of living, this was part of the last fee increase proposal and would mean that they could increase fees without any public comment and without going to the legislature with a new budget request. If they get this through then fees would be increased every other year pretty much automatically. You have to watch the fine print.

The problem is we're paying more for less, that's always hard to pitch to consumers.

[Oh Mah]

I often ask myself, What do the actual enforcement officers think of the policies they are to enforce. And how would they go about it differently. I know many are hunters and fishermen, worried about the future of hunting and fishing for their family and kids. I hear ( on tv ) that is why they got into the field in the first place. Would it not be wise to listen to their voices, they are the ones in the field every day. They see what is going on, on a daily basis. They have to have an opinion. If I were a manager, ( the state or commissioner or what ever ) I would surely want the opinions of those doing the work as to how to make things better, more efficient etc...

This is exactly what o brought up in the other thread,Either the state is not listening to the ones that know the most or the ones that know are not advocating for the animals.Maybe in fear of retaliation from the antis in such an anti environment.If this is the case these game officers could garner a lot more support from the hunters and fishermen than they currently are receiving.We all know how things are these days,no one wants to speaj up.They will get slammed by the elites.

In fact DNR should talk to wdfw about a wolf treeing one of their employees,Then wdfw should get a hold of the Gov. and give him some scientific data on the wolf population in that area and maybe push for a few tags to be sold.

[bigtex]

I often ask myself, What do the actual enforcement officers think of the policies they are to enforce. And how would they go about it differently. I know many are hunters and fishermen, worried about the future of hunting and fishing for their family and kids. I hear ( on tv ) that is why they got into the field in the first place. Would it not be wise to listen to their voices, they are the ones in the field every day. They see what is going on, on a daily basis. They have to have an opinion. If I were a manager, ( the state or commissioner or what ever ) I would surely want the opinions of those doing the work as to how to make things better, more efficient etc...

This is exactly what o brought up in the other thread,Either the state is not listening to the ones that know the most or the ones that know are not advocating for the animals.Maybe in fear of retaliation from the antis in such an anti environment.If this is the case these game officers could garner a lot more support from the hunters and fishermen than they currently are receiving.We all know how things are these days,no one wants to speaj up.They will get slammed by the elites.

You guys bring up good points that I want to address. It use to be in WA that a game warden was part law enforcement and part biologist, they played a role in biological studies, etc. Those days are gone, now a game warden is almost 100% law enforcement, and that's how it is in many states.

Now the input enforcement provides isn't so much what the limit/season should be, but rather this reg needs to be changed because it's difficult to enforce, or lets move a boundary because it's confusing, etc.

The "old school" game warden days are over. If you want to count critters all day, that's a biologist, not a game warden.

[bigtex]

I often ask myself, What do the actual enforcement officers think of the policies they are to enforce. And how would they go about it differently. I know many are hunters and fishermen, worried about the future of hunting and fishing for their family and kids. I hear ( on tv ) that is why they got into the field in the first place. Would it not be wise to listen to their voices, they are the ones in the field every day. They see what is going on, on a daily basis. They have to have an opinion. If I were a manager, ( the state or commissioner or what ever ) I would surely want the opinions of those doing the work as to how to make things better, more efficient etc...

This is exactly what o brought up in the other thread,Either the state is not listening to the ones that know the most or the ones that know are not advocating for the animals.Maybe in fear of retaliation from the antis in such an anti environment.If this is the case these game officers could garner a lot more support from the hunters and fishermen than they currently are receiving.We all know how things are these days,no one wants to speaj up.They will get slammed by the elites.

In fact DNR should talk to wdfw about a wolf treeing one of their employees,Then wdfw should get a hold of the Gov. and give him some scientific data on the wolf population in that area and maybe push for a few tags to be sold.

A DNR employee wasn't treed.

[jay.sharkbait]

The thing about taking a year off is you don't have to belong to this group or that group. No letters, no B...S just a clear message that can't be deflected or glossed over.

You reduce the number of fishing and game tags by 70% and Oly will lose their minds.

[Oh Mah]

I often ask myself, What do the actual enforcement officers think of the policies they are to enforce. And how would they go about it differently. I know many are hunters and fishermen, worried about the future of hunting and fishing for their family and kids. I hear ( on tv ) that is why they got into the field in the first place. Would it not be wise to listen to their voices, they are the ones in the field every day. They see what is going on, on a daily basis. They have to have an opinion. If I were a manager, ( the state or commissioner or what ever ) I would surely want the opinions of those doing the work as to how to make things better, more efficient etc...

This is exactly what o brought up in the other thread,Either the state is not listening to the ones that know the most or the ones that know are not advocating for the animals.Maybe in fear of retaliation from the antis in such an anti environment.If this is the case these game officers could garner a lot more support from the hunters and fishermen than they currently are receiving.We all know how things are these days,no one wants to speaj up.They will get slammed by the elites.

In fact DNR should talk to wdfw about a wolf treeing one of their employees,Then wdfw should get a hold of the Gov. and give him some scientific data on the wolf population in that area and maybe push for a few tags to be sold.

A DNR employee wasn't treed.

what was she then?I thought she was a student under dnr. authority. Semantics any way still works with what i posted.

[bucksnort]

I would like to see the tree hugging enviro's and so called "conservationists" have to put some skin in the game instead of those of us who want to hunt footing the bill to re-introduce animals that reduce our ability to hunt.  Doesn't make sense to me but I'm just some hick that lives in the woods with too many guns.

[bigtex]

I often ask myself, What do the actual enforcement officers think of the policies they are to enforce. And how would they go about it differently. I know many are hunters and fishermen, worried about the future of hunting and fishing for their family and kids. I hear ( on tv ) that is why they got into the field in the first place. Would it not be wise to listen to their voices, they are the ones in the field every day. They see what is going on, on a daily basis. They have to have an opinion. If I were a manager, ( the state or commissioner or what ever ) I would surely want the opinions of those doing the work as to how to make things better, more efficient etc...

This is exactly what o brought up in the other thread,Either the state is not listening to the ones that know the most or the ones that know are not advocating for the animals.Maybe in fear of retaliation from the antis in such an anti environment.If this is the case these game officers could garner a lot more support from the hunters and fishermen than they currently are receiving.We all know how things are these days,no one wants to speaj up.They will get slammed by the elites.

In fact DNR should talk to wdfw about a wolf treeing one of their employees,Then wdfw should get a hold of the Gov. and give him some scientific data on the wolf population in that area and maybe push for a few tags to be sold.

A DNR employee wasn't treed.

what was she then?

USFS

[KFhunter]

I think WDFW will be far more successful in dissuading people from buying tags than a HW boycott would be.

 

[WA1232]

It's less than a tank of gas or a few cases of cheap beer - I think many of you are spun up a bit. No, I'm not boycotting a year over that.

[Oh Mah]

I often ask myself, What do the actual enforcement officers think of the policies they are to enforce. And how would they go about it differently. I know many are hunters and fishermen, worried about the future of hunting and fishing for their family and kids. I hear ( on tv ) that is why they got into the field in the first place. Would it not be wise to listen to their voices, they are the ones in the field every day. They see what is going on, on a daily basis. They have to have an opinion. If I were a manager, ( the state or commissioner or what ever ) I would surely want the opinions of those doing the work as to how to make things better, more efficient etc...

This is exactly what o brought up in the other thread,Either the state is not listening to the ones that know the most or the ones that know are not advocating for the animals.Maybe in fear of retaliation from the antis in such an anti environment.If this is the case these game officers could garner a lot more support from the hunters and fishermen than they currently are receiving.We all know how things are these days,no one wants to speaj up.They will get slammed by the elites.

In fact DNR should talk to wdfw about a wolf treeing one of their employees,Then wdfw should get a hold of the Gov. and give him some scientific data on the wolf population in that area and maybe push for a few tags to be sold.

A DNR employee wasn't treed.

what was she then?

USFS

That doesn't make any difference in what i posted.  so usfs and dnr call wdfw and then they call Ensley.

[gaddy]

It is not about counting critters all day, It is what is happening in the field everyday. I was a manager once, I valued every persons input as to what could be improved, what our shortfalls were and what their opinions were that would make things better. The people doing the work always had the best answers on how to improve things and make everything more efficient, cost effective and in the end result, more profitable. These guys and gals out there doing our work protecting our resources ( the actual enforcement officers ) have opinions, and I would bet, some could have solutions if someone would listen. I think this is what we used to call production meetings. No idea is off the table, lets hash it over and see if it works.

[bigtex]

I would like to see the tree hugging enviro's and so called "conservationists" have to put some skin in the game instead of those of us who want to hunt footing the bill to re-introduce animals that reduce our ability to hunt.  Doesn't make sense to me but I'm just some hick that lives in the woods with too many guns.

21% of WDFW is funded by the general fund (taxes) which your tree hugging enviros pay.

[jay.sharkbait]

I think WDFW will be far more successful in dissuading people from buying tags than a HW boycott would be.

 

Think bigger.

Huntwa is just one social media outlet. If Sportsman really were serious it would be pretty easy to spread the word and get people behind it.

Take a year off, save the money and go out of state the next year. It would cripple WDFW

It'll probably never happen as all the corporate entity's wouldn't support it.

[bigtex]

It is not about counting critters all day, It is what is happening in the field everyday. I was a manager once, I valued every persons input as to what could be improved, what our shortfalls were and what their opinions were that would make things better. The people doing the work always had the best answers on how to improve things and make everything more efficient, cost effective and in the end result, more profitable. These guys and gals out there doing our work protecting our resources ( the actual enforcement officers ) have opinions, and I would bet, some could have solutions if someone would listen. I think this is what we used to call production meetings. No idea is off the table, lets hash it over and see if it works.

That's not the job of an enforcement officer anymore though. If you want to go into a wildlife profession where you will help draft seasons/limits/etc become a biologist. If you want to be a game warden then go into enforcement. The jobs don't cross paths like they used to. That's just how it is nowadays.