Get ready for Washington State hunting licenses to skyrocket!!!!

[Oh Mah]

So,  We are part of that 21% and 100% of the rest.  So where does that put the % for the tree huggers at again?  maybe 7%

[Oh Mah]

It is not about counting critters all day, It is what is happening in the field everyday. I was a manager once, I valued every persons input as to what could be improved, what our shortfalls were and what their opinions were that would make things better. The people doing the work always had the best answers on how to improve things and make everything more efficient, cost effective and in the end result, more profitable. These guys and gals out there doing our work protecting our resources ( the actual enforcement officers ) have opinions, and I would bet, some could have solutions if someone would listen. I think this is what we used to call production meetings. No idea is off the table, lets hash it over and see if it works.

That's not the job of an enforcement officer anymore though. If you want to go into a wildlife profession where you will help draft seasons/limits/etc become a biologist. If you want to be a game warden then go into enforcement. The jobs don't cross paths like they used to. That's just how it is nowadays.

True (used to work) nowadays ?(don't work)

[bigtex]

I think WDFW will be far more successful in dissuading people from buying tags than a HW boycott would be.

Think bigger.

Huntwa is just one social media outlet. If Sportsman really were serious it would be pretty easy to spread the word and get people behind it.

Take a year off, save the money and go out of state the next year. It would cripple WDFW

It'll probably never happen as all the corporate entity's wouldn't support it.

You're right it'll never happen. All of my friends hunt/fish, we all like to complain about license fees but in the end we all pony up and pay it. I have yet to have a friend who didn't buy a license simply because of the price of the license, and no I don't have rich friends. But like WA1232 said, in the end it equates to less than a tank of gas for my truck. It costs more for me to fill my F150 with gas then the big game combo is, am I going to give up hunting because of something equivalent to 1 tank of gas? No.

[bigtex]

So,  We are part of that 21% and 100% of the rest.  So where does that put the % for the tree huggers at again?  maybe 7%

Incorrect.

The federal govt and WA license holders each fund 27% of WDFW, you then have the general fund at 21%, local govts at 15% and others at 10%

Most people don't understand how much the feds contribute or just how many different entities pay into WDFW, its not just hunters and anglers.

[Oh Mah]

no sir it is correct.Hunters and fishermen put in the general fund,we put in federal.we put in the bulk of the wdfw fund.the tree huggers don't put in a measurable amount at all at this time into the wdfw funding.so you must take away hunters and fishermans % that comes out of fed. and state taxes that get added in because we pay in all of them.thats why i said their 21% comes down to about 7% if you take out the hunt and fish funding from us that pay in all 3

[jay.sharkbait]

I think WDFW will be far more successful in dissuading people from buying tags than a HW boycott would be.

Think bigger.

Huntwa is just one social media outlet. If Sportsman really were serious it would be pretty easy to spread the word and get people behind it.

Take a year off, save the money and go out of state the next year. It would cripple WDFW

It'll probably never happen as all the corporate entity's wouldn't support it.

You're right it'll never happen. All of my friends hunt/fish, we all like to complain about license fees but in the end we all pony up and pay it. I have yet to have a friend who didn't buy a license simply because of the price of the license, and no I don't have rich friends. But like WA1232 said, in the end it equates to less than a tank of gas for my truck. It costs more for me to fill my F150 with gas then the big game combo is, am I going to give up hunting because of something equivalent to 1 tank of gas? No.

And that's EXACTLY what Olympia is counting on

Call their bluff

[Oh Mah]

how much do you really think comes from tree hugger's out of the P/R tax?

[gaddy]

So are you saying their going to loose not only the license fees, but also the fuel tax revenue ? And the taxes paid on all other expenditures ?

[olyguy79]

no sir it is correct.Hunters and fishermen put in the general fund,we put in federal.we put in the bulk of the wdfw fund.the tree huggers don't put in a measurable amount at all at this time into the wdfw funding.so you must take away hunters and fishermans % that comes out of fed. and state taxes that get added in because we pay in all of them.thats why i said their 21% comes down to about 7% if you take out the hunt and fish funding from us that pay in all 3

Let's see the numbers. Because with out it that's all your opinion.

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[bigtex]

how much do you really think comes from tree hugger's out of the P/R tax?

Well it's certainly not 100% hunters that contribute to it!

[Oh Mah]

no sir it is correct.Hunters and fishermen put in the general fund,we put in federal.we put in the bulk of the wdfw fund.the tree huggers don't put in a measurable amount at all at this time into the wdfw funding.so you must take away hunters and fishermans % that comes out of fed. and state taxes that get added in because we pay in all of them.thats why i said their 21% comes down to about 7% if you take out the hunt and fish funding from us that pay in all 3

Let's see the numbers. Because with out it that's all your opinion.

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Show you the numbers?my opinion?its public fact.common sense.You can't argue this with a straight face,or can you? 

[bigtex]

So are you saying their going to loose not only the license fees, but also the fuel tax revenue ? And the taxes paid on all other expenditures ?

Not sure where you got that. Right now the legislature is essentially gifting WDFW $30,000,000. The legislature has said the gift ends on June 30, 2019 and WDFW has to come up with a plan to fill the gap. WDFWs plan is to tap into sales, lodging, etc taxes for two-thirds of it, and into license fees for the remaining third.

[Oh Mah]

how much do you really think comes from tree hugger's out of the P/R tax?

Well it's certainly not 100% hunters that contribute to it!

nope your right its not but since  P/R gets i think 11% on every fire arm and so much for everything outdoors related a % does not come from tree huggers now does it?You are being arrogant again,no one said 100% of anything and no one tried to imply it,Except you that is.

[olyguy79]

no sir it is correct.Hunters and fishermen put in the general fund,we put in federal.we put in the bulk of the wdfw fund.the tree huggers don't put in a measurable amount at all at this time into the wdfw funding.so you must take away hunters and fishermans % that comes out of fed. and state taxes that get added in because we pay in all of them.thats why i said their 21% comes down to about 7% if you take out the hunt and fish funding from us that pay in all 3

Let's see the numbers. Because with out it that's all your opinion.

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Show you the numbers?my opinion?its public fact.common sense.You can't argue this with a straight face,or can you? 

Right back at you. You pulled 7% out of thin air. Without looking at the hard numbers you have no idea how much is federal income tax, federal oil and gas tax, federal PR funds, etc.

The fact is this, many state wildlife agencies are on welfare from the federal government. It's even more so for coastal states because of all the federal fisheries funding.

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[JimmyHoffa]

I think WDFW will be far more successful in dissuading people from buying tags than a HW boycott would be.

Think bigger.

Huntwa is just one social media outlet. If Sportsman really were serious it would be pretty easy to spread the word and get people behind it.

Take a year off, save the money and go out of state the next year. It would cripple WDFW

It'll probably never happen as all the corporate entity's wouldn't support it.

You're right it'll never happen. All of my friends hunt/fish, we all like to complain about license fees but in the end we all pony up and pay it. I have yet to have a friend who didn't buy a license simply because of the price of the license, and no I don't have rich friends. But like WA1232 said, in the end it equates to less than a tank of gas for my truck. It costs more for me to fill my F150 with gas then the big game combo is, am I going to give up hunting because of something equivalent to 1 tank of gas? No.

I think westside pheasant was the only one I stopped due to price, then they closed down the release area--so price didn't matter anyways.  Other things I've stopped getting are just due to the change in experience--closest razor clam beach doesn't produce anymore and don't want to drive the extra hour and a half.  Close by rivers are closed, close months earlier or don't have anymore plants.  The remaining open rivers are such a clown show with driftboats hitting the water at 0430, etc.