Get ready for Washington State hunting licenses to skyrocket!!!!

[Oh Mah]

So are you saying their going to loose not only the license fees, but also the fuel tax revenue ? And the taxes paid on all other expenditures ?

Not sure where you got that. Right now the legislature is essentially gifting WDFW $30,000,000. The legislature has said the gift ends on June 30, 2019 and WDFW has to come up with a plan to fill the gap. WDFWs plan is to tap into sales, lodging, etc taxes for two-thirds of it, and into license fees for the remaining third.

Has the dept got it yet?If so then the dept. doesn't have a deficit anymore then does it? IF IT DOESN'T THEN WHY TALKS OF RAISING PRICES ON HUNTING AND FISHING?Just because they put a band aid on this doesn't mean a thing.The fact i have laid out here are fact.You act like we hunters and fishermen did not put any of that 30 million into the funding that is saving dfw for now.you make like it all comes from the only general fund tax payers in this state the tree huggers.

[bigtex]

how much do you really think comes from tree hugger's out of the P/R tax?

Well it's certainly not 100% hunters that contribute to it!

nope your right its not but since  P/R gets i think 11% on every fire arm and so much for everything outdoors related a % does not come from tree huggers now does it?You are being arrogant again,no one said 100% of anything and no one tried to imply it,Except you that is.

How is that arrogant? Am I saying I am the best? Because that's what arrogance is. You asked how much I think non-hunters contribute to PR, I responded by saying hunters don't contribute 100% Apparently answering that question means I am "arrogant"

There's lots of people who buy guns who don't hunt. There's people who buy boat motors who don't hunt/fish. There's birders out there who buy camo who don't hunt. But guess what, that tax still goes to PR.

[Oh Mah]

no sir it is correct.Hunters and fishermen put in the general fund,we put in federal.we put in the bulk of the wdfw fund.the tree huggers don't put in a measurable amount at all at this time into the wdfw funding.so you must take away hunters and fishermans % that comes out of fed. and state taxes that get added in because we pay in all of them.thats why i said their 21% comes down to about 7% if you take out the hunt and fish funding from us that pay in all 3

Let's see the numbers. Because with out it that's all your opinion.

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Show you the numbers?my opinion?its public fact.common sense.You can't argue this with a straight face,or can you? 

Right back at you. You pulled 7% out of thin air. Without looking at the hard numbers you have no idea how much is federal income tax, federal oil and gas tax, federal PR funds, etc.

The fact is this, many state wildlife agencies are on welfare from the federal government. It's even more so for coastal states because of all the federal fisheries funding.

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yes 7% was out of thin air.It most likely is less.

[bigtex]

So are you saying their going to loose not only the license fees, but also the fuel tax revenue ? And the taxes paid on all other expenditures ?

Not sure where you got that. Right now the legislature is essentially gifting WDFW $30,000,000. The legislature has said the gift ends on June 30, 2019 and WDFW has to come up with a plan to fill the gap. WDFWs plan is to tap into sales, lodging, etc taxes for two-thirds of it, and into license fees for the remaining third.

Has the dept got it yet?If so then the dept. doesn't have a deficit anymore then does it? IF IT DOESN'T THEN WHY TALKS OF RAISING PRICES ON HUNTING AND FISHING?Just because they put a band aid on this doesn't mean a thing.The fact i have laid out here are fact.You act like we hunters and fishermen did not put any of that 30 million into the funding that is saving dfw for now.you make like it all comes from the only general fund tax payers in this state the tree huggers.

Government budgets are based off the prior year. You increase or decrease from the prior year. $30,000,000 goes away July 1, 2019.

[gaddy]

Again, Thanks for your input Bigtex !!

[bigtex]

Again, Thanks for your input Bigtex !!

not a problem

[SCRUBS]

I would like to see the tree hugging enviro's and so called "conservationists" have to put some skin in the game instead of those of us who want to hunt footing the bill to re-introduce animals that reduce our ability to hunt.  Doesn't make sense to me but I'm just some hick that lives in the woods with too many guns.

21% of WDFW is funded by the general fund (taxes) which your tree hugging enviros pay.

We contribute a portion of  that 21% as well.

[Oh Mah]

thats what i said but they want proof. 

[hunter399]

Here's a fact,wdfw is selling a crapy product ,as far as hunting goes that's why the decline in sales ,the big money is in non residents sales which I'm sure that price will increase.
You can increase fees now ,it will help funding now,but as your sales decrease again,year after year, two years you will be increasing fees every year .Pretty soon it will be cheaper to hunt out of state.

[bigtex]

I would like to see the tree hugging enviro's and so called "conservationists" have to put some skin in the game instead of those of us who want to hunt footing the bill to re-introduce animals that reduce our ability to hunt.  Doesn't make sense to me but I'm just some hick that lives in the woods with too many guns.

21% of WDFW is funded by the general fund (taxes) which your tree hugging enviros pay.

We contribute a portion of  that 21% as well.

Yup and so does everyone else.

[Oh Mah]

bigtex you are missing the obvious point,On purpose i feel at that.We know everyone that pays taxes contributes to the general fund but you said the tree hugger's pay that 21% as though we are not in that mix.You lost on that one so its best if we all just move on from that one. 

[Oh Mah]

I would like to see the tree hugging enviro's and so called "conservationists" have to put some skin in the game instead of those of us who want to hunt footing the bill to re-introduce animals that reduce our ability to hunt.  Doesn't make sense to me but I'm just some hick that lives in the woods with too many guns.

21% of WDFW is funded by the general fund (taxes) which your tree hugging enviros pay.

RIGHT HERE

[bigtex]

bigtex you are missing the obvious point,On purpose i feel at that.We know everyone that pays taxes contributes to the general fund but you said the tree hugger's pay that 21% as though we are not in that mix.You lost on that one so its best if we all just move on from that one. 

Show me where I say we are not in the mix. I don't see anywhere where I say only tree huggers pay into the general fund, I simply said tree huggers pay into it.

I would like to see the tree hugging enviro's and so called "conservationists" have to put some skin in the game instead of those of us who want to hunt footing the bill to re-introduce animals that reduce our ability to hunt.  Doesn't make sense to me but I'm just some hick that lives in the woods with too many guns.

21% of WDFW is funded by the general fund (taxes) which your tree hugging enviros pay.

[Oh Mah]

no you get arrogant with me when im not spot on and i have shown exactly where you did and you did not say into it you said specifically they pay it.

[olyguy79]

Here's how you end the pissing match over what boils down to deciphering the proper use of the English language between you two.

Every tax paying citizen in WA funds WDFW, some pay more (outdoorsmen) and some pay less (those that dont contribute to PR or licenses.) But in the end, everyone pays for it.

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