WDFW funding webinar tonight

[Oh Mah]

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[winshooter88]

This is atypical WDFW survey, multiple answers grouped so that no matter how you answer you are supporting something that they want to push, and only one with a place to comment. When the results come out they will say that the majority of responses agree with their plans. Last year the WDFW director looked so bad when he tried to tell the natural resources committee that the public supported fee increases because the published responses were very much against a fee increase.

[X-Force]

This topic has so many weeds I need to tag it for later.

[Dhoey07]

This is atypical WDFW survey, multiple answers grouped so that no matter how you answer you are supporting something that they want to push, and only one with a place to comment. When the results come out they will say that the majority of responses agree with their plans. Last year the WDFW director looked so bad when he tried to tell the natural resources committee that the public supported fee increases because the published responses were very much against a fee increase.

When you have to rank things in order of importance, and there are 5 bullet points under each topic, they always throw something good in there along with 4 others that you don't really care about.

 For example, Orca Recovery, one bullet point was increase chinook salmon populations.  Who wouldn't find that important?

I don't have any trust that WDFW will spend money in the most effective manner.  It seems to me that instead of making difficult decisions and find a real fix for an issue, they would rather dance around it and create more work for themselves. 

[Henrydog]

I took the survey and Dhoey07 comments are 100% on point and match mine exactly. 

[vandeman17]

Here’s my 2 cents: no more money from recreational hunters and fishers without more priority. If they want more money, deliver more product. We can catch less and have less success hunting for the same price. If they want more, their main constituents ought to get more.  I’ll be delivering that message to my reps and senator.

Delivering a message to reps and senator is a start but I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. As painful as it would be because many would back out, I think the only way to get hunter's and fisherman's voices heard is to hit them in the wallet. Money talks 

[WSU]

They have to get their budget passed and have very few friends in the legislature. Cca, psa, and other groups are and have been opposing license increases until wdfw pays more attention to sports groups. It’s worked the last few years and the leg told wdfw no fee increases.  Keep the pressure on.

[buglebrush]

WDFW is just ridiculous.  My two daughters and I are doing the bulk of our hunting out of State this year.  Hope they enjoy their grizzlies and wolves

[JimmyHoffa]

Here’s my 2 cents: no more money from recreational hunters and fishers without more priority. If they want more money, deliver more product. We can catch less and have less success hunting for the same price. If they want more, their main constituents ought to get more.  I’ll be delivering that message to my reps and senator.

There's a thread in the deer section showing the trends from 1997-2017...loss of 30,000 deer hunters.  Will WDFW do something to reverse that or speed it up?  I think I know the unfortunate answer.

[WSU]

That's a tough question.  They don't have authority to delist wolves.  They could change their management of other predators for sure.  They also can only do so much regarding private property.  Places people used to hunt are bought up and posted.  I personally can think have at least a half dozen or dozen places I used to hunt that are no longer accessible.  As the population grows, that only gets worse.

[buglebrush]

That's a tough question.  They don't have authority to delist wolves.  They could change their management of other predators for sure.  They also can only do so much regarding private property.  Places people used to hunt are bought up and posted.  I personally can think have at least a half dozen or dozen places I used to hunt that are no longer accessible.  As the population grows, that only gets worse.

"THEY COULD CHANGE THEIR MANAGEMENT OF OTHER PREDATORS FOR SURE". 
 
That's really all we need to know.  That's what is so infuriating.  It'd be one thing if we were faced with dwindling game, etc... having done all we could to fix the problem.  In this case WDFW continues to do all they can to exacerbate the problem.   

[npaull]

Places people used to hunt are bought up and posted.  I personally can think have at least a half dozen or dozen places I used to hunt that are no longer accessible.  As the population grows, that only gets worse.

Access and habitat are everything. EVERYTHING. As long as hunters are more pissed about wolves than the health of the land and their access to it, options for hunting will dwindle. Our energies are being BADLY misspent bitching about predators and ignoring the slow and inexorable loss of healthy public lands.

[X-Force]

Places people used to hunt are bought up and posted.  I personally can think have at least a half dozen or dozen places I used to hunt that are no longer accessible.  As the population grows, that only gets worse.

Access and habitat are everything. EVERYTHING. As long as hunters are more pissed about wolves than the health of the land and their access to it, options for hunting will dwindle. Our energies are being BADLY misspent complaining about predators and ignoring the slow and inexorable loss of healthy public lands.

I agree.

[buglebrush]

Places people used to hunt are bought up and posted.  I personally can think have at least a half dozen or dozen places I used to hunt that are no longer accessible.  As the population grows, that only gets worse.

Access and habitat are everything. EVERYTHING. As long as hunters are more pissed about wolves than the health of the land and their access to it, options for hunting will dwindle. Our energies are being BADLY misspent bitching about predators and ignoring the slow and inexorable loss of healthy public lands.

Since we're talking about WDFW, how's that relevant?  Feels like a misdirection to me.  Oh, and much of the enormous wilderness areas of Idaho are now nearly devoid of game thanks to Wolves.  Doesn't do a whole lot of good for hunting to have the land, but nothing left to hunt on it.  Why can't you just admit that energy aimed at predator control is NOT MISSPENT, and is a simple thing WDFW could do that would really help?

[Dhoey07]

Places people used to hunt are bought up and posted.  I personally can think have at least a half dozen or dozen places I used to hunt that are no longer accessible.  As the population grows, that only gets worse.

Access and habitat are everything. EVERYTHING. As long as hunters are more pissed about wolves than the health of the land and their access to it, options for hunting will dwindle. Our energies are being BADLY misspent bitching about predators and ignoring the slow and inexorable loss of healthy public lands.

Are you saying the loss of public lands or that public lands are turning unhealthy?