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Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« on: March 16, 2009, 09:06:37 PM »
Saw an Eastmans hunting journal TV flick today... I think it was Guy who was the hunter, and he was hunting Colorado and was hunting velvet bucks with a modern rifle.  He passed on a 3 year old "170" buck (*censored*... buck would've scored MAYBE 155"), then ended up taking a Nice 4x4 with eyeguards but had SUPER short mainbeams and the fronts were so crab clawed it may as well of been a 3x3 with eyeguards...  A super buck but I didn't see the thing scoring much pass 170 (maybe 20" inside spread, but nice and tall).  He never said a score but said if he would've had it mounted without the velvet it would've made B&C.  I highly doubt the thing would've made it P&Y much less B&C...

I'm just curious if this guy always blows the scores WAY out of the water...???  A cool show to watch just cause you don't see much muley hunting on TV but damn the smoke that was blowing out of this guys mouth was making the room hazy!

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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 09:11:09 PM »
I use to really like the Eastmens show and magazines, but they just act to big headed for me any more. I still watch the show, but it just is not the same as it was 10 years ago! No more mag subscription for me!
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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 09:12:04 PM »
Watched the same episode, they sure do look a lot bigger in velvet though.  I can't jude scores worth sh*t.  Yeah he said that buck would probably go 190 or something and 188 without velvet i believe is what he said, maybe i have those mixed up.  I heard him say probably a book buck if he stripped the velvet though.  The buck he did take had nice back forks but not wide, but tall, and yes shorter front forks.  I'd take him forsure though.  

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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 09:17:25 PM »
Watched the same episode, they sure do look a lot bigger in velvet though.  I can't jude scores worth sh*t.  Yeah he said that buck would probably go 190 or something and 188 without velvet i believe is what he said, maybe i have those mixed up.  I heard him say probably a book buck if he stripped the velvet though.  The buck he did take had nice back forks but not wide, but tall, and yes shorter front forks.  I'd take him forsure though.  

Same episode... I'm pretty decent a judging bucks from what I've seen by guessing on here of bucks guys post...
I'd shoot that buck for sure as well but it takes more than good back forks to make book!  The buck had SUPER short mains and his 4th points on his fronts were maybe 4" long...  Great backs, but with even a generous 23" inside spread he'd never make book...

And that 3 year old buck he passed on was WAY inside his ears and MAYBE 20" tall... great genetics but a real young deer and no way he'd go past 160" imho...  He'd get close, but I don't believe that score of 170" at all.

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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 10:26:38 PM »
Going to watch it right now
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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 10:33:43 PM »
Let me know what you think phool. You have better experience than me in this...  But I'm pretty sure that ain't no book buck!

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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 10:34:38 PM »
I have heard this criticism of Guy Eastman before (overblowing scores).  I have never seen his show, but I get the Mag and really enjoy it.  I guess I would be apt to be more critical of him if I killed deer as big as he does... :chuckle:

I'll be interested to see what Phool says..
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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 11:18:49 PM »
 Well I zipped through all the commercials, love DVR's, and have to say Guy tagged himself a pretty nice buck, I would love to get the scoop from Charlie or Michelle, or any of the other taxi's on here as to the "velvet kit" he said he brought with him. He bathed the rack in some liquid while it was hanging by the feet.

 Anyhow, I paused to take a good look at the first buck peeking around the trees. Nice buck, I have to disagree with you though MJ, I really don't think he would hit the 20" mark for height, and put him right at ear width which would put him about 20"-21" since he was a younger buck. I think you are spot on as far as a score goes, 160 gross is what I would have estimated in the field, the velvet makes the tines look a little shorter than what they are and I think a mid 150's net when all is said and done.

 The buck he tagged is a super buck even with the short mains, remember it doesn't matter what the fork width is as long as the tines themselves are long. Assuming the velvet mass again is making the tine length look shorter than it really is I would have put that buck in the low 180 class gross maybe 181"-182" and netting in the low 170's. A 23" inside is a stretch, you are right, and even with that I would have a hard time seeing it make 183" let alone 190". Funny thing is I have a buck that is almost a clone of that buck, minus the velvet. They did most of the score estimates in the field while they were shooting the video, I believe that if the buck had truely made book they would have shown him posing with it mounted after he got it home, not just on the wall with nothing to give it scale. All in all my  :twocents: says you guys are all pretty close in your estimates, maybe we are all way off base :dunno:
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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 04:11:31 PM »
What do you guys think these bucks score?

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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 04:13:42 PM »
Some toads there Jason :tup:
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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 04:19:30 PM »
170
185
190

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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2009, 04:29:59 PM »
Those are some awsome bucks jason! :drool:
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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2009, 04:35:03 PM »
Top buck 160 gross, second buck 174 gross, bottom buck 170 gross.
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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2009, 04:36:12 PM »
Are those Wa bucks?

That second buck is Awesome. He looks bigger then the third buck.

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Re: Eastmans... Guy Eastmans CO Buck...
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2009, 04:40:09 PM »
gross scores 156, 188, 173

 


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