I like having the foam around camp and glassing but I'm not sleeping on just that
Winterlite AND the z-lite is a pretty darn toasty pad setup. You mentioned this being for summer bear, so maybe you'd be fine with just the winterlite?
Have you seen the Thermarest Z-seat? I use that for glassing, and at $15 and 2 oz, it's hard to beat...
It may seem crazy, but a few trips into the woods with a popped pad will usually change your opinion.
That being said it’s extremely versatile. It allows for comfy naps and allows you to stretch out on wet ground without getting soaked.
Once I started packing it, I’ve never stopped.
The extra “jacket” is no worse then a mid layer. It’s certainly not a jacket in the traditional sense 🤷♂️
I don’t see cigarettes on your list. WTF over...
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