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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #555 on: August 31, 2018, 10:52:35 AM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01961/wdfw01961.pdf

There's a crap ton of info here. Not sure if this is what you're after, but page 220 of it is ram harvest in the Swakane for the last several years.

The chart I posted a screen shot of was from a different 4 page report. I'll find that one too.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #556 on: August 31, 2018, 10:53:29 AM »
There it is in the post just before yours.  Thanks X-Force.

So as you can see there must be some sort of communication between WDFW and the tribes to get those numbers.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #557 on: August 31, 2018, 10:58:24 AM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01961/wdfw01961.pdf

There's a crap ton of info here. Not sure if this is what you're after, but page 220 of it is ram harvest in the Swakane for the last several years.

The chart I posted a screen shot of was from a different 4 page report. I'll find that one too.
It's actually page # 220 in the report, page number at the bottom of the page.  It a different page of the entire document because there is an unnumbered cover page and index and stuff like that, maybe page 226 or something of the document.

X Force posted the chart I was looking for.  It was just to show that the two groups talk.  That's what I am most concerned about, as long as they are talking and hopefully working towards a common goal of maintaining a healthy herd I am happy.

I am not sure if that chart confirms all that but it at least shows they are communicating a little.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #558 on: August 31, 2018, 11:21:15 AM »
Is there any data on the number of live capture off Clemmons that are transferred to the reservation they certainly communicate and work together on that

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #559 on: August 31, 2018, 11:27:16 AM »
The clemans transfer was over a decade ago for us and our herd from that transfer is thriving. The most recent transfer that I recall was to the colville tribe about 4 or 5 years ago I believe?
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #560 on: August 31, 2018, 11:43:05 AM »
There has been some sheep relocated into the Blues to supplement a herd down there in the not too distant past. I can't recall the details.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #561 on: August 31, 2018, 12:04:15 PM »
Looking at the 2017 Report the Blues seem to have the most potential for increasing Bighorn Sheep numbers... The limiting factors seem to be disease and contact with domestic livestock.

"For the Blue Mountains herds in aggregate then, the short-term objective would be to have 340-440 animals, but we estimate that ideally the area could ultimately support approximately 1,360 if disease and landowner tolerance issues were resolved." pg. 180
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #562 on: August 31, 2018, 12:10:30 PM »
What about the tieton if I recall they had originally proposed reintroduction in 2016-17

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #563 on: August 31, 2018, 12:28:07 PM »
What about the tieton if I recall they had originally proposed reintroduction in 2016-17

"The Tieton herd was eliminated and current plans call for holding off on reintroduction until the risk of contact with domestic sheep or goats is substantially reduced." pg 219
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #564 on: August 31, 2018, 02:53:29 PM »
All the talk about trophy potential vs max sustainable harvest is a little funny. I’d like to hear from some guys who’ve waited a lifetime to draw a sheep tag and would be excited to go out and shoot a 1/2 curl ram. Some may not like to hear this but most people that get a sheep tag are trophy hunting.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #565 on: August 31, 2018, 03:10:43 PM »
All the talk about trophy potential vs max sustainable harvest is a little funny. I’d like to hear from some guys who’ve waited a lifetime to draw a sheep tag and would be excited to go out and shoot a 1/2 curl ram. Some may not like to hear this but most people that get a sheep tag are trophy hunting.

"Harvest objectives for bighorn sheep are to maintain a harvest success that averages >85% over a 3-year  period,  while  at  the  same  time bighorn  population  size  remains  stable  or  increasing. Strategies and harvest thresholds to obtain these objectives are described in the WDFW’s Game Management Plan (2014)" pg 175

Looking at WDFW's plan it looks like population growth is the top priority and the limited harvests to sustain growth keep trophy potential high.

Many areas aren't near population objectives... and not because of habitat or over-hunting its because of domestic livestock.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #566 on: August 31, 2018, 03:23:24 PM »
And in alot of cases free ranging feral livestock that isn't on a grazing lease just a stupid backyard goat with no business being out other then laziness on the owners part.  Wdfw needs to get tougher on holding people accountable

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #567 on: August 31, 2018, 03:25:15 PM »
All the talk about trophy potential vs max sustainable harvest is a little funny. I’d like to hear from some guys who’ve waited a lifetime to draw a sheep tag and would be excited to go out and shoot a 1/2 curl ram. Some may not like to hear this but most people that get a sheep tag are trophy hunting.

"Harvest objectives for bighorn sheep are to maintain a harvest success that averages >85% over a 3-year  period,  while  at  the  same  time bighorn  population  size  remains  stable  or  increasing. Strategies and harvest thresholds to obtain these objectives are described in the WDFW’s Game Management Plan (2014)" pg 175

Looking at WDFW's plan it looks like population growth is the top priority and the limited harvests to sustain growth keep trophy potential high.

Many areas aren't near population objectives... and not because of habitat or over-hunting its because of domestic livestock.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #568 on: September 04, 2018, 06:32:57 PM »
Great podcast relevant to sheep health, etc.

http://www.themeateater.com/podcasts/ep-132-sheep-on-the-mountain/
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #569 on: October 14, 2018, 12:44:58 AM »
Any one hear of the sheep that was harvested up there yet?

 


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