Yakama Nation Sheep Tags

[shallowforks]

Yes, it is interesting how we all see a different picture, isnt it?

[Dan-o]

You can try to work together or you just blame the other guy.

I look at it like an inheritance.   Some tribal members inherited a gift from their ancestors.  Not much different than a rich guy leaving an inheritance for their kids.........   unless you can explain why it's different.

[idahohuntr]

You should really broaden yourself on all the aspects of this specific topic before you tell guys like myself to suggest extending a hand.

Based on your posts in this thread it's clear you need to do some reading and broadening yourself.  While I think there are many challenges and wish there was greater collaboration between states and tribes on harvest...it is clear you don't even understand basic treaty rights.  If you had a better grasp on this topic I think you would realize how ridiculous it is to whine about a couple sheep tags.

[trophyhunt]

When you own the printer that prints out governor type tags, as many as you want, there is no need to bargain or cooperate. If there were more members and elders like plat we would get somewhere with our issues between tribal and non tribal differences. Mtn muley, most on here feel the way you do, your not in the minority. And I don’t understand the number of swakane tags given to the tribes? It takes money and effort to put those sheep on the mountain, this certainly isn’t part of our agenda as s Washington Wild Sheep member.

[MtnMuley]

You should really broaden yourself on all the aspects of this specific topic before you tell guys like myself to suggest extending a hand.

Based on your posts in this thread it's clear you need to do some reading and broadening yourself.  While I think there are many challenges and wish there was greater collaboration between states and tribes on harvest...it is clear you don't even understand basic treaty rights.  If you had a better grasp on this topic I think you would realize how ridiculous it is to whine about a couple sheep tags.

Based on every post I've ever read from you, you should take my last advice directed at you.

I've forgotten more about treaty rights than you've ever learned. What I haven't forgotten is how common sense and game management is out the window these days, there's too many die hard *censored*s in the hunting community, and why I even continue to argue with people I could care less who even exist.

[idahohuntr]

You should really broaden yourself on all the aspects of this specific topic before you tell guys like myself to suggest extending a hand.

Based on your posts in this thread it's clear you need to do some reading and broadening yourself.  While I think there are many challenges and wish there was greater collaboration between states and tribes on harvest...it is clear you don't even understand basic treaty rights.  If you had a better grasp on this topic I think you would realize how ridiculous it is to whine about a couple sheep tags.

Based on every post I've ever read from you, you should take my last advice directed at you.

I've forgotten more about treaty rights than you've ever learned. What I haven't forgotten is how common sense and game management is out the window these days, there's too many die hard *censored*s in the hunting community, and why I even continue to argue with people I could care less who even exist.

You don't know anything about treaty rights.  You made that crystal clear when you suggested these rights were related to their skin  color.  That's not something you forget...its a clear sign you don't understand treaties at all.  Instead of attacking tribes and their harvest, try learning about them.

[shallowforks]

If there were more members and elders like plat we would get somewhere with our issues between tribal and non tribal differences.

And the pathway to creating this is by fostering good relationships is it not?
MTNMULEY I too have concerns over how our game is managed between the state and tribal entities, And when a thread like this one comes about we can choose to use it as a stepping stone toward bridging a gap or as a hammer to drive the wedge between us deeper.

[MtnMuley]

You should really broaden yourself on all the aspects of this specific topic before you tell guys like myself to suggest extending a hand.

Based on your posts in this thread it's clear you need to do some reading and broadening yourself.  While I think there are many challenges and wish there was greater collaboration between states and tribes on harvest...it is clear you don't even understand basic treaty rights.  If you had a better grasp on this topic I think you would realize how ridiculous it is to whine about a couple sheep tags.

Based on every post I've ever read from you, you should take my last advice directed at you.

I've forgotten more about treaty rights than you've ever learned. What I haven't forgotten is how common sense and game management is out the window these days, there's too many die hard *censored*s in the hunting community, and why I even continue to argue with people I could care less who even exist.

You don't know anything about treaty rights.  You made that crystal clear when you suggested these rights were related to their skin  color.  That's not something you forget...its a clear sign you don't understand treaties at all.  Instead of attacking tribes and their harvest, try learning about them.

Are you not intelligent enough to realize my "skin" comment was directed at being an enrolled member? Seriously? That's where you're going to take this now? After all these years and now 2 sheep tags pop up in an area they've never had a tag before, and you're going to debate a "skin" reference comment I made. You clearly are a detriment to this hunting community and always have been as far as I'm concerned.

[PlateauNDN]

After all these years and now 2 sheep tags pop up in an area they've never had a tag before

@Jackelope theres the reference I was talking about earlier.

[MtnMuley]

I have no idea what you two talk about in PMs nor really care. I do have a question for you though, plat.......word is in my small community is that you had a part in promoting these ram tags? Any truth?

[PlateauNDN]

I wouldn't say i was the reason nor the only reason. I did have lengthy conversations about our Ceded Areas and U & A areas and what the plans were for exercising our rights in our historic areas before the State and Feds say since we dont go there anymore we dont need to go there anymore and relinquish the rights to those areas.

[MtnMuley]

I appreciate the honest answer.

[PlateauNDN]

It wasnt about a single species either, it was multiple species and working towards a shared responsibility.

[MtnMuley]

I'd love to hear all that was said and discussed. Was WDFW involved?

[idahohuntr]

But you’re not a tribal member.

So you're okay with skin color giving you special privileges that you've never had until now?

Backpedal and spin all you want.  This is what you said and you very clearly equate race to "special privileges".  Its not skin color and special anything...its a treaty and treaty rights.